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The nation that experienced genocide themselves now vow to commit it themselves, and the world powers cheer. The world is broken beyond repair.
Nobody except the west is cheering this. The west is the global pariah now.
The West's government, I am appalled at what my government is doing and I'm doing all I can.
Sure, it's western regimes that are at fault here, and plenty of people in the west are shocked and appalled by this.
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Good on you
Half the world supports them, another half of the world is agnostic and not doing anything, and the 3–4 countries are against it. No action to stop a genocide is an action in and of itself.
And I said world powers because while Russia and China are agnostic, they are happy with the end result of US using their resources to support Israel.
The west is only about 20% of the world population wise, and pretty much all the rest supports Palestine. China and Russia aren't agnostic either. Russia compared what Israel is doing to the siege of Leningrad by the nazis, while China said that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defence
I'm talking about oranges, and you are talking about apples. World powers =/ world population.
Where exactly did Russia or China expressed their support for Palestine? All I can see is Russia offering to be a mediator and China urging negotiations which are dead propositions, while the US offers Israel public and financial support for their genocide.
Both Russia and China have clearly stated that the UN resolution stating that Palestine has to be granted independence must be implemented. Both Russia and China are demanding that Israel stops its genocidal campaign against Palestinians. This is literally the resolution that Russia introduced at the UN securitry council stated and the west voted down. US has now both amendments proposed by Russia on Wednesday
If you don't understand how stopping the genocide in Gaza and implementing an independent state of Palestine is direct and tangible support, then I don't know what else to tell you.
Both Russia and China have clearly stated that the UN resolution stating that Palestine has to be granted independence must be implemented.
Do you have a source for that?
Both Russia and China are demanding that Israel stops its genocidal campaign against Palestinians.
Not really. Both resolutions called for humanitarian ceasefire, release of all hostages, aid access, and safe evacuation of civilians. Nowhere, did it acknowledge what is happening in Gaza by the Israel hand same way it didn't include the language of "self-defense" that Israel and US wanted. Fucking theater, everyone knew going in they wouldn't pass. Posturing doesn't solve anything.
The resolutions that US vetoed were the first step. First thing that needs to happen is to stop Israel from doing a ground invasion in Gaza. This isn't theatre this would literally save countless thousands of lives.
China has also formally stated that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defense
This is identical to what TASS released. But I can't find where they initially pledged their support for the independent Palestinian state. Do you have a source for that?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/chinas-xi-jinping-backs-just-cause-of-palestinian-statehood
Thanks. Rare area where I agree with China.
The resolutions that US vetoed were the first step. First thing that needs to happen is to stop Israel from doing a ground invasion in Gaza. This isn’t theatre this would literally save countless thousands of lives.
I don't disagree with you on the merits that the resolution passing would be a positive thing, it's just that it was a stupid show and nothing else. Everyone going in knew that it won't pass and everyone was free to vote however they wanted as it would have been vetoed either way if not by US, then by France or UK. So it is theater and political games on internation scale without any real solution.
China has also formally stated that what Israel is doing goes beyond self-defense
As did EU, but it's pointless words without further actions. Both EU and China pledged humanitarian aid to Gaza, but it can't even be delivered without Israel approval, and they simply refuse.
This is identical to what TASS released. But I can’t find where they initially pledged their support for the independent Palestinian state. Do you have a source for that?
This is an official statement by the president of Russia as published in TASS which is the official state media. The statement clearly says that Russia's position is that there needs to be an Independent state of Palestine as originally proposed by the UN. I'm not sure what else you're asking a source for here?
I don’t disagree with you on the merits that the resolution passing would be a positive thing, it’s just that it was a stupid show and nothing else.
It's not, this is how the geopolitical process works. Countries propose these resolutions and then they are voted on. The US is now in a minority position and it's forced to resort to vetoes of these resolutions. Eventually, either US will be forced to accept a resolution on a ceasefire or further expose itself as backing genocide by Israel. The political pressure on Israel and its sponsors will continue to grow as time goes on.
This is an official statement by the president of Russia as published in TASS which is the official state media. The statement clearly says that Russia’s position is that there needs to be an Independent state of Palestine as originally proposed by the UN. I’m not sure what else you’re asking a source for here?
The article you linked just parrots the TASS that they "reiterated his country’s support". I asked if you have a source where they initially offered support?
And if you are going to quote me, use the full context, not cherry-picked sentences to fit your argument.
That photo is cursed
would have been better with a socialist fraternal kiss
Fuck Hamas
HAMAS must be excoriated from the earth with prejudice and without mercy.
Anyone have a paywall free version?
Get a room you two...
Are you a bot? Your account says you are.
After the severity of Hamas' attack noone should be surprised.
I completely agree. Hamas made a horrific attack. That doesn't justify war crimes by Israel. Unfortunately, people are wdownvoring you as they see only black and white, good and bad. Both are horrible in this instance and there is no 'good' side.
Hamas were terrorists, killing innocent people. Israel is using the pretext of self protection after a terrorist attack to continue their policy of genocide.
The Palestinians are in a horrible position. Israel, and by proxy the USA, Europe, has put them there. That doesn't justify the barbaric terrorist attacks.
We've seen this before. Most recently with northern Ireland. The only path forward is both sides at the table negotiating a peaceful solution. It was tried before and there was an impasse. It should be tried again with tapering off of support to both sides, militarily and humanitarian to encourage promptness.
Remind me how many peace offers Israel made and how many Palestine accepted again. It sucks but you can't negotiate with an outfit that prefers mutual destruction to coexistence and sadly hamas does just that.
Not saying Israel and the idf are always or always do the right thing but right now it's protecting it's citizens and I can't blame them for that.
Israel only offers deals it knows are unacceptable to Palestinians. That is not a meeting of equals. Equals negotiate.
I don't think Palestine is smelling of roses. Hamas committed a terrorist attack that killed hundreds brutally.
Israel have continued to take land in violation of international law. Is that continuing to offer deals?
Are they equals, though? Individual people are sure, but countries surely aren't. Maybe it's just wishful thinking to think they should have been negotiating on equal footing to begin with.
Palestinians expected to be negotiated fairly, but what individual wouldn't press their advantages when their resources allow them to for the good of their own interests? Do Palestinians have a history of treating the disadvantaged in their sphere of influence with equality? And should that guarantee them the same with a rival neighboring nation?
Serious question.