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[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

After the severity of Hamas' attack noone should be surprised.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I completely agree. Hamas made a horrific attack. That doesn't justify war crimes by Israel. Unfortunately, people are wdownvoring you as they see only black and white, good and bad. Both are horrible in this instance and there is no 'good' side.

Hamas were terrorists, killing innocent people. Israel is using the pretext of self protection after a terrorist attack to continue their policy of genocide.

The Palestinians are in a horrible position. Israel, and by proxy the USA, Europe, has put them there. That doesn't justify the barbaric terrorist attacks.

We've seen this before. Most recently with northern Ireland. The only path forward is both sides at the table negotiating a peaceful solution. It was tried before and there was an impasse. It should be tried again with tapering off of support to both sides, militarily and humanitarian to encourage promptness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Remind me how many peace offers Israel made and how many Palestine accepted again. It sucks but you can't negotiate with an outfit that prefers mutual destruction to coexistence and sadly hamas does just that.

Not saying Israel and the idf are always or always do the right thing but right now it's protecting it's citizens and I can't blame them for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Israel only offers deals it knows are unacceptable to Palestinians. That is not a meeting of equals. Equals negotiate.

I don't think Palestine is smelling of roses. Hamas committed a terrorist attack that killed hundreds brutally.

Israel have continued to take land in violation of international law. Is that continuing to offer deals?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Are they equals, though? Individual people are sure, but countries surely aren't. Maybe it's just wishful thinking to think they should have been negotiating on equal footing to begin with.

Palestinians expected to be negotiated fairly, but what individual wouldn't press their advantages when their resources allow them to for the good of their own interests? Do Palestinians have a history of treating the disadvantaged in their sphere of influence with equality? And should that guarantee them the same with a rival neighboring nation?

Serious question.