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Conservatives don’t want to go to any college these days, and no liberal kid wants to be associated with this wacky school. You’ve made a product with no demographic, congrats Ron.
Somehow he’s an even worse businessman than Trump, the fuck?
The goal was to destroy an LGBTQ+ refuge, which they have done.
The only school closure baby dick would care about is a private Christian conservative charter school; even then he probably wouldn't give a shit unless it impacted his children or he could exploit it for personal gain...
Are you telling me he's going to become President of the United States of America?
There are always the religious colleges which they support. I was dragged on tours of a few of them with my church group in high school, they're super weird and clearly feel like isolated bubbles even on the tours which are supposed to make them appear normal to potential students.
Can you really blame him though?
Think about it...
Normal schools turn kids into well educated socialists, so what does that leave for the conservatives? He just wants a school that will turn kids into uneducated selfish assholes like him!
He just wants a school that will turn kids into uneducated selfish assholes like him!
Believe it or not, that take is actually more flattering to him than the actual truth is. Here's a relevant sentence from his wikipedia page:
DeSantis graduated from Yale in 2001 with a B.A., magna cum laude.
He's not uneducated. He understands what he's doing. He is consciously and intentionally trying to deny other people the same opportunities he received. He's doing this because he believes it will benefit him politically.
To quote Full Metal Jacket, Ron DeSantis is "the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the god damned courtesy of giving him a reacharound."
As Shulman said "You did read the book!"
What a bastard, he knows what he is doing.
I believe your meant to say
What a magna cum load
He's doing this because he believes it will benefit him politically.
AKA, make him the King of Florida for the rest of his life.
He just wants a school that will turn kids into uneducated selfish assholes like him!
No, he wants obedient worker slaves. Just smart enough to know how to follow orders and what will happen if they choose to disobey.
He still succeeded in removing a liberal college.
It's the kids that wanted an education from a normal school that are getting hurt
DeSantis is now using more public funds to push conservative christian "education". If kids who want to go to a religious school enroll here, this is a win for the christian right
And unfortunately the state of Florida is suffering a brain drain because of that, along with a drain of low income immigrant workers.
Somehow, I get the feeling he doesn't really give two fucks, though. I mean, he won't until the barbarians (us) are at the gate.
The reason it's important that even Americans should know what "liberal" actually means, at least in context, is exactly statements like this one.
A "liberal college" is a college that teaches "liberal arts."
Language studies, history, psychology, writing, philosophy, etc.
It is not a political designation. Sure, they're probably going to trend left, both American and actual, because of all the gathered knowledge and empathy, but this is exactly why letting "liberal" to be a synonym for "Democrat" is a mistake.
You've got people, unironically, in these comments talking about him replacing a "liberal college with a conservative one."
He didn't replace anything. He just sabotaged a school.
I wasn't really using it as a political designation, I was referring to that it is a free and open thinking college. One where right wing views could be freely aired alongside left wing. I'm aware that it has adopted something of a political meaning also, but I don't really like that bastardisation, particularly as it sometimes seems to be almost the opposite of the common meaning of the word.
The college was free and open, now it isn't. The college hasn't exactly been removed, but you could remove it from a list of colleges like that, which is sort of the meaning I was going for.
I'd love it if you took your argument to hexbear though lol. That would properly get them riled up. Don't do it though, they're not worth your time.
In a free market, when a service provider changes their product, customers are not in fact obliged to treat it as the same as the old version.
But I was told this is "caynsuhl cuhltchr."
I misread that as Cajun culture and was terribly confused for a moment.
Wasn't this the goal from the start though? Change the curriculum, get the 'woke' kids to leave, replace them with conservative kids who get to trade on whatever reputation the school still has. Because their previous approach of starting Christian universities from scratch (eg. Liberty University) has failed when it comes to giving alumni decent job prospects outside the conservative sphere.
conservative science and history is just a church. The sun orbits the earth etc, god created the world in 7 literal days. Its not useful.
The reality is if people want a church they can go to them but nobody wants to go to those either because in america your status is determined by your money and church is a money loser.
That's not entirely true. There have been many very scientifically successful religious universities. That said, MAGA Christians are not the type that would create a free thinking institution.
That's somewhat true but christian colleges are often unwilling to look into scientific pursuits that may damage their faith's view on the sciences. They have made contributions, but are always limited in their scope and often publish inaccurate studies supporting their particular world view.
And sometimes such schools rebel, like all of the Duke foundation schools, although admittedly Furman was dragged kicking and screaming by its students (and lucky got two surprise and astonishing endowments right after, basically fuck-you levels of money).
You're running with a shit crew if they value you based on your income
Well, this is to be expected. When the GOP comes, the brain flees.
Everything he does backfires terribly. He's running Florida further into the ground. Frankly, except for the innocents harmed (students and minorities and the like), let it burn. The people of Florida elected a monster. They get what they deserve.
Democrats who controlled the state legislature were worried that holding their gubernatorial elections in presidential years, when more Republican voters showed up at the polls, threatened their solid grip on state politics.
So a group of rural segregationist Democrats called a special statewide election to change the year in which Florida elected its governors. Voters approved the change, shifting gubernatorial elections to midterm years, rather than presidential years.
Several decades later, this backfired on the Democrats.
Looks less like backfiring on Democrats and more like benefiting rural folk both times
DeSantis as he's being hoisted: "what's my petard doing here?"
Unless the entire goal is to make the population too fucking ignorant to understand what he's taking from them.
Seems successful to me.
See also Lee Atwater, Southern Strategy
If this were reddit, we'd have people replying to tell you that that never happened, and that the Republicans are, "The Party of Lincoln"™
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I see you all over Lemmy. I like you.
Thanks! My first impression of you is positive too 😁
I feel like every decision this guy takes blows up in his face lol.
Yep. It would be hilarious except for the innocent people he's fucking with. Florida is already dicked up enough that Florida Man is a meme, they don't need pudding fingers fucking shit up more.
Someone really fucked his face too hard in college, eh?
I did a temporary research position at New College about a decade ago. It was such an awesome little University with great faculty and a great student body. The recent developments due to this clown saddens me so much.
Well then he HAS made the college conservative if the studsnts are fleeing, opening up the space for their preferred students. Headline makes it sound like he failed.
Exactly. It’s the entire point. He want all those liberal voters gone. It doesn’t matter if only a fraction of students stay. If those are all conservatives the county the college is in has turned solid red.
Sadly, the article is mistaken (in terms of “failing”). They started an athletics program where none existed before, so they more than made up for lost academic students and replaced them with student athletes. New enrollment spiked so high, in fact, that hey actually had a housing shortage due to too many students, and had to provide emergency housing off campus in local hotels.
His plan worked for its intended purpose- to scare away any LQBTG identifying (or even LQBTQ tolerating) students and staff, and replace them with less tolerant people.
Let it fucking rot