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Fascist governments got to fascist.
Targeting the LGBTQ+ population and eroding their rights and making it a focus during a time of an international cost of living crisis, is a tried and true practice of the right wing to hide their incompetence in governing and in matters of economy.
Here's this thing that doesn't affect me at all in any way but I kinda think is weird, so let me crush the spirit of a minority that already gets treated like shit?
Man some people suck so much.
It's all political, for all their talk about the traditional family, Meloni had a child outside of marriage, and Salvini is divorced.
I still can’t believe that Meloni got elected. Watching the far right rise all over Europe has been disturbing.
Yeah you can't like to see it and what it signals. Either literal fascists or neo-liberals who's opinions are little better are in power all around the world currently.
At least the Conservatives will probably go down in Britain next year, but the Labour Party has just been pathetic lately.
Labour hasn't been a party of labour in decades. Sad times we live in.
Labour is ultimately just Tories with different colour ties. Neither support LGBTQ+ people. Either way, we will suffer.
Oh I can definitely believe that. Most Italians are very gullible and populism sounds way better than ideas grounded in reality. Not to mention her opponents all sucked and would rather split up in hundreds of parties rather than actually form a coalition and have a chance at winning.
That's disgusting.
and then people ask me, an Italian, why I want to leave this country asap
Unfortunately, the places where you can go are an ever-decreasing list. Some Nordic countries, a few EU ones, that's about it. Fascism is growing into a majority in literally the rest of the world.
It's almost as if the stated goal of dividing the LGB and the TQ so that it's easier to go after the LGBTQ is going off exactly like they planned.... :/
Any historians care to explain why Italy jumps to fascism so quickly?
Not a historian, nor Italian, so double check me on this, but a big part of the "why" is that the facists were never removed from Italy. They've just been kind of allowed to fester since 1946. I mean, Germany didn't really get rid of their facists either, but the Italian facist movement was basically unscathed. Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI) was founded in 1946 by Facists literally from Mussolini's party, and maintained relevance by making political alliances with other, more moderate conservative parties.
Some facists just straight up joined the Liberal parties. Fernando Tambroni, Christian Democratic Prime Minister of Italy for 116 days in 1960, for instance, was a Facist Party member during the war, and was quite the fan of Mussolini. The subsequent Prime Minister, Christian Democrat Party leader, Amintore Fanfani, who served five non-consecutive terms as PM, was also a member of the Facist Party.
In the 90s other facist parties, particularly Forza Italia, and Alleanza Nazionale were spun off from MSI and basically wore a better better mask, and managed to get Berlusconi, also a Mussolini Stan, in as PM.
We could continue doing pointing out facists in powerful positions in Italian politics, and we skipped the whole "decades of facist terrorism" thing, but really the reason Italy jumped to fascism is because it has been there the whole time, and has had power semi-regularly.
Not a historian but their location makes it easy to scapegoat people so fascists can rise to power
Why does their location make it easy to scapegoat people?
Edge of Europe bordering Africa and it's aspiring immigrants. Italy is often the first stop for immigrant boats, and on-shoring desperate people. All a right wing government has to do is point to those people and say how they are going to destroy everything you know. Rinse repeat, voila fascism.
Is it Italy? Or is it just humans?
Italy had a strong communist presence since forever, after WWI fascism was supported by the elite to counter that, and after WWII it was supported by the "liberators", the US, for obvious reasons.
As an Italian, it's a cheap promise for politicians and it boosts consensus in a mainly conservative/catholic country. Removing minority rights doesn't cost anything in terms of money expenditure, which (unfortunately) is the only thing Europe is concerned of about what our government does. They are now attacking "alias careers" in education, and more to come.
How many world war losses before Italy cuts its ties with facism, I wonder.
Oh I live here, they won't. One of the most mamma's boy's type of culture, and I'm southern European too....
Here you still have shit like(specially in the small cities). If you are gay, you find yourself a wife and have a bunch of kids to hide it. I only know this because the parents of some friends that used to be REALLY close did it.
Dude that family is one of the most toxic shits I've seen regarding lying and bottling it all up inside. I could swear my friend is gay too, or at least like one guy mb a year ago....he won't ever come out until his parents and probably brothers die....
Shitty shitty facist exist and are made by this fucked up childhood and life.
Side note: They are cowards so wars won't kill them, they are the ones in fetal position refusing to move and crying if they where anywhere close to the front lines. Their cowardly manners will cost a lot to the ones that surround them. That I can tell you after spending a lot of time with them(more then I should have)
Looks like the motherland of fascism is moving back in time...
Not surprised with the new government.
Maybe I’m against the grain here but shouldn’t biological parents be on the birth certificate?
I imagine you think this because of medical things (heredity and all that) AFAIK It isn't used for such things, only for legal responsibility (adoption for instance would modify it), so in order to protect the position of those who actually raise the kid and the stability of their family, I don't agree with you. Not without changing the role of the birth certificate first at least
If they cared about that, they would make a law that forces all newborns and their 'parents' to submit to a DNA test before issuing a certificate. This is just being done to make it harder for LGBTQ+ parents to have the same rights and responsibilities as straight parents. Not being named on your kid's birth certificate makes things so much harder when dealing with government programs and even enrolling in school or taking them to the doctor.
Mine does not, it shows my parents who have legal custody over me, they are not lgbtq+. That is what a birth cert shows, the people who have legal custody and responsibility for you.
This is horrifying.
God's, I hate fascism.
I had such a raw disgust reading that headline. I wondered what fucking state would do that. Then I got to the end. So Italy is just speed running to open fascism. That sucks.
Fascism moment
That's fucking terrible
This is horrible. :(
If they want the biological parents names, just do a DNA test on every baby. I am sure the upstanding straight citizens of Italy always know who the actual father is in every case and would be willing to submit that to public record.
