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Tankies unironically support the Taliban (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 10 months ago by goat to c/meanwhileongrad

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[–] goat 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Do they not realise they will literally be executed by the Taliban because they're queer?

[–] Atomic 7 points 10 months ago

They'll be executed because they're not Muslim. And if they are Muslim. They'll be executed anyway because they're the wrong type of Muslim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

A lot of them also support Russia.

What I've seen is, that many more socially conservative tankies are trying to convince the more socially liberal tankies to "grow up", as they also believe in the "kids will grow out their liberal phase", which is kind of a threat on the right ("conform to hypernormalcy or never see yourself reaching an old age").

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

They probably believe the shared hate for us will have them.

[+] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"H-ha ha, I'm just joking" is also what alt-right cunts used back in 2015 and 2016.

Turns out, "I support this thing that's in-line with my ideology! H-ha ha, j-just joking!" is just how chuds communicate their views to each other when they're too cowardly to face social censure for their abhorrent views.

[+] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this was from the start an outrageous enough claim that I don’t think it was meant to be serious: Jesus invented the term?

Such phrasing is light-hearted, but that doesn't mean the broader point isn't meant sincerely. If someone says, "That's why Jesus invented alcohol" after someone complains about having a hard day, that doesn't mean that they literally believe Jesus invented alcohol, but it does mean that they regard alcohol as an appropriate response to the situation.

I’m not a fan of tankies, but I’m not convinced that their philosophy overlaps significantly with the Taliban.

The core of tankieism, as detailed elsewhere on this sub, is a simple tribalism. Thinking of it in terms of ideological consistency is a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Tankies are atheists and the Taliban are religious fundamentalists who oppose everything that modern tankies stand for. If anything they're closer to the original tankies who had similar social values and who happened to be supported by Russian communist Islamists in the beginning. Islamists and the original Bolsheviks generally uphold the values of the Torah but the Marxists just put an atheist spin on it and called it secular morality.

This is the problem with ironically glorifying extremist groups is that many other people aren't going to know that you're joking. At least in places like Jreg's community you generally have a sense of post irony.

[–] ZombiFrancis 1 points 10 months ago

A lot of the context for comments by hexbear users are often references to the latest episode of Chapo Trap House.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Critical support for theocracy (it's America Bad theocracy, though, so it's okay)