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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even though there are 100k active users, it still seems slow. I know it'll take time to change, but I have already seen improvement in the three weeks I've been here.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

It seems slow until it doesn’t. We’ll all get to that point where we are happy with what we have.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's slow, but I'd argue that the quality is better. So that kind of makes up for it a bit, imo. And being slow means more people can just browse everything Federated on the front page (of K-bin at least) and get into new stuff they wouldn't have considered before.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quantity is a quality of its own. While there is some great stuff here, there is also a lot that is missing. Many great discussions either don't even start because nobody who see the intersting article to link it. Or in the few cases it is linked few are in that niche and get involved in the discussion.

This depends a lot on exactly which niches you are interested . Reddit has a lot of niches that each have a good number of intersting people adding to the discussion. Kbin/Lemmy has a few, and if you like the large topics everyone talks about has plenty, but the millions of small niches are lacking still . Heres to that changing .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

but the millions of small niches are lacking still

Even Reddit didn't fully solve that problem. When you go outside of the general topics it an be surprising how slow activity can be. That's simply the nature of the niche.

There's no real way to solve that without simply being that change yourself. Because those niches tend to have the 2-3 same users posting half or more of the discussions or links.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit is supposed to have 52 million daily active users.
So yea, with < 0.2% of the users compared to reddit it is a bit slower.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit has always been slow as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is best that it is organic. Lemmy (the software) is still in alpha/beta state so it still in its infancy. And a large sudden influx of users will ultimately overwhelm instances.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're in a kbin magazine, kbin is alfa at best :). But things are changing fast because of the rapid increase in users.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oops. And that's the beauty of the fediverse. I wasn't even aware that I was posting in a Kbin magazine. I was using the app Memmy.

[–] Iteria 1 points 1 year ago

if we go by the 90/9/1 rule then that means that only 1K of users are creating the vast majority of the content across the while fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm starting to come around to the idea that kbin/Lemmy doesn't need to experience massive amounts of user growth in order to succeed, and I'm not certain that we'd even want anything approaching the userbase that Reddit has. Similar to how not every city needs to be NYC, and some people prefer living in a smaller city.

I suppose there's a happy medium between "wow this place is dead" and "the cacophony of voices makes posting here feel like shouting into the void" that we're shooting for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1% of reddit users would be fun, that would be about a 10x increase in current daily users?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The stat I saw was ~70 million users for reddit, so a 7x increase would put us at 1%.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the problem is finding communities that are what you actually want. The killer feature of reddit was that you could find a subreddit for basically any niche.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This was not the case for a number of years on Reddit. I think only the last 4 years have been basically if I need topic I can find it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Assuming the numbers are accurate, we already hit critical mass for perpetuity of content and activity (around 80k active users) so things should just get better from here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've always preferred smaller communities, hell I live in the damn woods (:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might prove to be an interesting weekend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

On the one hand it's sad that 3rd party apps are officially gonna be dead but on the other hand I'm really looking forward to it! End of an era. Perchance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will miss Apollo. Though I do have to say, I’m really enjoying the Memmy app for Lemmy. It’s Apollo-esque.

[–] darkstar 1 points 1 year ago

Memmy is pretty great so far, but I'm with you. My heart will mourn Apollo for a long time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We need to figure out how to tap the mass migration. There's nothing proprietary about an internet forum that should lock people to subpar platforms or corporations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There really are dozens of us!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its trending in the right direction. July will tell us a lot and we're gonna see if the hardcore users migrating (the people who actually post a lot of content) will force those more casual users to come here as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah July 1st will change everything.

[–] imaqtpie 3 points 1 year ago

People should be aware that there are still major federation issues between Lemmy and kbin. I've had many experiences where I navigated to the same post on different accounts, and sometimes only a handful of comments would show up on one account or the other. This likely applies to upvotes/downvotes as well.

Point being, I think this place feels significantly less active than I would expect from a 100k user base, due to the federation problems and bugs, along with pretty much every user being a noob to the platform.

I think it's fair to say if you took these same 100k users and transported them to a fully functional/stable version of Lemmy, we would immediately see a big surge in activity, simply because people's feeds would actually be showing what they want to see, comments wouldn't be invisible, etc.

Also, I've been here three weeks too, and I have to say it was still decently active just two weeks ago, even though it was much smaller.

I feel like the rise in users has not shown up yet in the activity, but we need to be patient and give it time, because I ain't goin back to reddit, so this place needs to keep being fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's my comment from my Lemmy account from 2 hours ago that's ironically not showing up here on kbin xD

People should be aware that there are still major federation issues between Lemmy and kbin. I’ve had many experiences where I navigated to the same post on different accounts, and sometimes only a handful of comments would show up on one account or the other. This likely applies to upvotes/downvotes as well.

Point being, I think this place feels significantly less active than I would expect from a 100k user base, due to the federation problems and bugs, along with pretty much every user being a noob to the platform.

I think it’s fair to say if you took these same 100k users and transported them to a fully functional/stable version of Lemmy, we would immediately see a big surge in activity, simply because people’s feeds would actually be showing what they want to see, comments wouldn’t be invisible, etc.

Also, I’ve been here three weeks too, and I have to say it was still decently active just two weeks ago, even though it was much smaller.

I feel like the rise in users has not shown up yet in the activity, but we need to be patient and give it time, because I ain’t goin back to reddit, so this place needs to keep being fun.

See the kind of quality content you're missing out on? Hold the faith and activity will naturally increase as the platform matures.

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/500520

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It sounds very good. Fuck Reddit 🖕🖕

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm trying to get in to it. Like it for the most part so far. Question tho.. Am I just dense or can we not collapse comment trees? old.reddit made it super easy to minimize the reply comments under a parent so you can quickly scroll down to the next.

[–] pancakes 1 points 1 year ago

I'm using Jerboa and I just tap the comment to hide the comment tree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked kbin initially, but Lemmy just has a few added familiar features and a little less chaos. Hopefully it'll get in line in the future with the basics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah you guys are right. Trying out Lemmy now with wefwef and I think I’m home 🥲I’ll keep bouncing around until the dust settles but I’m pretty happy with this setup right now. Still gotta learn the ins and outs to federated shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

On Lemmy it's easy, on Kbin I have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just signed into Kbin and yeah I have no idea how to do that either.

[–] cantstopthesignal 1 points 1 year ago

Put in a request. It's being constantly developed. This isn't just a reddit clone, it's been and is being built from scratch.

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