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I think that it's interesting that tankies call themselves tankies in memes, and yet will get all bent out of shape if non-tankies refer to them as tankies. Like, I understand coopting hurtful terms as a sort of reclamation of the power of language... but really? Tankies is the term you want to reclaim? You want to associate yourself with authoritarian regimes using tanks to crush protestors? Alright, then.
Welcome to reality as a team sport. Words don't mean things. It's all just signalling - ingroup always good, outgroup always bad.
It's the same as any extremist. When someone they deem lesser calls them what they are, they become offended, but when it's themselves, it's fine.
like a slur
Sure, lib.
Tankies will also happily defend Russia, so sometimes they prefer fascists to liberals.
From my experience it's every time
Ah yes, tankies have never turned on liberals the moment they've taken power, no sir. Poor innocent tankies.
i wonder what country it was that wanted to share the invasion of poland. hm
Do they actually consider themselves a significant enough population to even bother courting? “People further left from the democrats” is a fairly small group already, tankies are a thankfully small subset of that.
They aren't really far left though when they support fascist regimes.
Tankies are not left.
Far right. Full stop.
Anyone can be authoritarian
Amen
a little unrelated, but I don't use left-right, mainly because of how my country handles democracy
Oh hey, next time they call anarchists liberals for not trusting them boy do I have a meme for them
Aren't they just saying that liberals and fascist both defend capitalism and are therefore both against them? Similar but not the same?
No, the comment section makes it much clearer that they think Bernie Sanders is as likely to round them all up and throw them in prison as Trump. There's no nuance to their statements, they think anyone who isn't explicitly a communist or all our socialist will eventually murder communists and socialists.
They've flattened out literally every other ideology except their own as "evil" basically.
According to their wiki, which is blocked in China, funnily enough--Democracies are actually fascist states!
Kind of. The meme follows the way the USA's capitalists co-opted the term liberalism. It's a bit of a mess and supports capitalist lingo
This is one of the cases which implies that the instance registration isn't fool-proof and there're some pro capitalist users messing with them
A liberal economy is a capitalist economy. A capitalist economy allows individuals to freely trade goods and services between each other.
Political commentators in the US try to change the meaning to be any left wing movement. Despite liberal being an appropriate label to groups within both conservative and progressive politicians.
A capitalist economy is inherently authoritarian and conservative, stifling liberties and freedoms for most
What do you mean by inherently authoritarian?
The hierarchy of capitalism where holding more money and wealth is authority and power over those who have less.
That's in every country though, regardless of its economic system. For Communism, it's just the state that has the authority and power
Isn't communism stateless though? And vanguard party totalitarian states aren't it.
Anyway, there's an infinite amount of options which aren't capitalist to move on with
Communism is meant to be stateless, yeah!
but in practice it has a central authoritarian state.
We don't really know the second sentence. Any central authoritarian state doesn't have communist qualities and such a state can't be trusted on what they claim they are
then there has never been a communist nation
Probably true