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[–] [email protected] 164 points 11 months ago (14 children)

This is the propaganda I can get behind.

And with trolleybuses powered on a renewable grid, it's zero gallons!

[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Or maybe tell bosses that if your job can be done remotely it should be done remotely. Then there's more room on the bus for people who need to be in meatspace to do their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If only bosses were open to persuasion.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Yeah, tell it my boss. I had this conversation today with her.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We used to have trolleybuses when I was a kid in the 70's, they were so insanely much more nice to ride than a diesel. No bad smell, and they were smooth and quiet.

I guess we will get back to something similar soon, but with batteries.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

While I agree with the comparison in the post, the trolleybus powered by renewable energy shouldn't be compared to gas cars.

It should be compared to electric cars powered by renewable energy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

I disagree, the bus is still replacing the purpose of the gas cars. The bus should just be compared to both gas and electric cars.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Acktually, to use a VPN, you would need to turn on your PC or phone, which uses a small but existent amount of petrol -🤓

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Solar power. Checkmate, atheists.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Very hard to deliver milk over VPN

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago (4 children)

68 men plus the driver makes 69, amirite?

[–] [email protected] 109 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But the driver is already at work

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That made me laugh out loud in the literal sense of the phrase

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Ah, you should see buses in my city. Dirty, thirty years old, overpopulated graves on wheels with no air conditioners.

Never again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That one bus company in the nearby city that absolutely refuses to replace their miserable old buses 🥴🤡 while the others run modern air conditioned hybrids, and some fully electric

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

with no air conditioners.

Dear Faust. Are they using Soviet minibuses?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thirty years old is a perfectly reasonable age for a big chunk of a city's fleet. You're still talking kneeling busses.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Recently visited York (UK) and they have a fantastic bus system - and they're electric.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

But everybody loves cars! Just look at how many cars people buy all the time!

/s

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I could take 68 men. That's a normal Saturday night for me.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

But that'll take away people's freedom to pay a subscription for heated seats 😔

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Despite having the tube and double-decker busses, London is the most traffic congested city in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-10/these-are-the-world-s-most-congested-cities

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago

Imagine how bad it would be without the tube and busses! All these people trying to drive in London? Just thinking about it I shudder and I've never even seen London.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Good job they have them, in that case!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

According to a study conducted in 1000 cities in 50 countries based on data from connected vehicles and phones. Not disagreeing with the premise but I expect there are plenty of other more "congested" cities, visit Manila or Jakarta for example. The UK should however definitely do more to fund its public infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Gallons? Shouldn't it be liters?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Shamelessly stolen from I can't remember.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The only issue I have with this is there's a British gallon (that is DIFFERENT from the American gallon) that is used to measure milk. :D. That was the only place I saw gallon being used.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I believe England, GB maybe, is very much a mixed bag when it comes to measurement standards.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It makes a good point but only if your country actually has public transport.

If you live somewhere with zero public transport, the car is your only option.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You make a good point but only if your country actually has roads.

If you live somewhere with no paved roads and only railroads, then that and walking are your only options.

(Sarcasm but I’m curious if you see the point)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

but this isn't new technology where you can write a 100 bullshit news article about and prais it as the next big thing because it actually works and is efficient

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now consider an electric bus

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (17 children)

The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don't live 20 miles or more from where they work

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It could also be 0 gallons if the busses are electrified, or if the rail system is expanded, or if we stop pushing office workers to commute every day.

There are many routes to 0 emissions.

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