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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (2 children)

hahahahah i'd like to see that nazi fuck try, see him wade through discovery, the ADL was built for this shit, it's their very reason for being

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

He prefers to tilt at specially made windmills with sharpened fans.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The thing is the added complexity that the plaintiff is adding is just going to extend out the entire process. The filing indicates something like a 60% loss of ad revenue. Even if the case runs smooth as butter, there's no way Musk can get access to the money he's seeking in time to cover the massive loss plus the huge debt obligations he's sacked the company with already.

There's zero ways restitution from this case would ever give the company enough head above water quick enough to prevent drowning in debt.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Elon Musk said Monday that X, formerly known as Twitter, has “no choice” but to file a defamation lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League amid an ongoing slump in advertising revenue.

“Based on what we’ve heard from advertisers, ADL seems to be responsible for most of our revenue loss,” Musk wrote on Monday. “Giving them maximum benefit of the doubt, I don’t see any scenario where they’re responsible for less than 10% of the value destruction, so ~$4 billion.”

How to avoid being antisemitic, step one: Don't blame your incompetence and piss poor judgement on "the Jews."

Elon Musk: D'oh!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So - Twitter has lost $40 billion in advertising revenue?

Sounds about right. Wonder how much more they can lose.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm no accountant, but I have to imagine when he's talking about "value" it's not exact loss of sales, but something more like "projected sales for the next 10 years" or something.

There's no way Twitter, a company that was overvalued at $43 billion, was also making $40billion a year in advertising sales.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

He needs to learn that just because he was stupid enough to buy it for $44B that doesn’t mean it was ever worth $44B.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

He seems to be saying that the market value of Twitter is $40B less than what it was before stuff happened. "Value destruction" tends to be applied to "stock" (like market cap) rather than "flow" (like revenues).

He's basically saying Twitter is worth $4B, given that he paid $44B and seems to be saying $40B of values was destroyed.

Losing $40B in less than a year is, uh, remarkable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So he’s trying to blame Jewish folks for his retarded investment? What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to wind up there?

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For context, this all started Thursday when the ADL xeeted that is had a "frank and productive" conversation with X's CEO. She replied with some warm and fuzzy PR bullshit about working together to improve the platform blah blah blah. But the right wing nutjobs weren't happy with the implication that X was in anyway cooperating with the ADL and there was immediate backlash. "Ban the ADL" became a trending hashtag, because, according to the racist majority on X, the ADL is the actual hate group and they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to "ban free speech." Musk, always quick to undermine the sad sack holding the title "CEO" jumped on that bandwagon and been xeeting about it all weekend, threatening to ban them, generally talking trash, and now threatening to sue.

I find it depressing that I'm aware of all this.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to “ban free speech.”

This argument of theirs is so strange. Don't advertisers too have free speech? Is the right wing arguing that advertisers shouldn't be allowed to choose to stop advertising with Twitter? What "pressure" can ADL put on them? Does the ADL have legal authority to force advertisers to exit Twitter? No. Is the ADL holding private information about the CEOs of advertisers and extorting the advertisers to leave? Not likely.

Is the ADL communicating a position that the majority of the advertiser's customers find the racist, fascist, and misogynistic content now omnipresent on Twitter distasteful, and therefore harmful to the advertisers' brands and with negative impacts to future sales? Likely yes, but those statements are themselves free speech on the part of the ADL.

What the right wing seems to be arguing is that the definition of free speech should be the right to say whatever racist, fascist, and misogynistic comments they like without anyone making choices of their own to dissociate with the right wing. That's not free speech that's....fascism!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's hard to take that seriously when you use "xeeted".

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

The whole website needs to be xeeted out of xistence at this point.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I call them x-cretions. So you x-crete them.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I almost feel bad for the new "CEO". It really seems like she's doing her best to give the impression that Twitter is still a sane company with reasonable business practices, only for Elon to completely disregard her messaging and do the exact opposite.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would feel bad if it wasn't obvious that Musk would do this. It is impossible for him to control himself. He can't help to put his dumbass opinion in the mix, no matter how much it hurts him personally and professionally. It's the reason he was forced to buy Twitter in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drop me in her seat for 7 figures with a nice kick-out clause (no stock, please) and I’ll pretend Xitter is a wholesome, thoughtful, productive corporate citizen, too.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

She's doing exactly what she was hired to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

she's a 'ceo' like the barista at starbucks is a 'manager'.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Shut up Elon, you unfuckable, racist, dork.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the oldest most experienced groups at litigation against hate and defamation will have a field day with this. I would not be surprised to see X owing the ADL damages if Musk actually follows through.

This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.

I'm so for it

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (8 children)

"You made me do it"! yells the abuser. This ~~utter fucknut~~ psychopathic narcissist can't possibly consider that the lost ad revenue has anything to do with his turning twitter into 4chan.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao cry about it, Mr Melon.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He is remarkably bad at running a business for a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s because he’s not and never was a businessman. He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich. Musk builds and designs shit, he doesn’t know squat about running a company. He should stick to playing with his rockets and making new roadsters. This whole CEO foray has turned out real bad.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich.

Not even that...

He was (at best) an average coder decades ago who used family money to buy lots of startups and a few made a lot of money.

He was a gambler, not a businessman. It's just when you start out wealthy you can keep buying lottery tickets till you win. It doesn't even mean he was good at picking lottery numbers, he could just afford to buy more tickets than other people.

Musk builds and designs shit,

And definitely not that

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Not mine but... Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something. Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on.

Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel good about themselves. Some keep going until they hit the center bullseye, then they give speeches or write blog posts about "meritocracy" and the salutary effects of hard work.

Poor kids aren't visiting the carnival. They're the ones working it.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's not even a tech guy. He inherited his money, and then lucked into a couple jobs with actual tech guys that he could take the credit for. His entire career has been built around buying other tech companies that were just taking off, pushing the original founders out, and then taking credit for everything everyone else did.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

... lucked into a couple jobs ...

Strongarmed his way into other people's success, then slapped his name on it and claimed it as his own.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk builds and designs shit

Does he though?

Musk attaches his name to things others have built and designed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wishes he was a tech guy. He just piggybacks off of everyone else. He's a leech, a parasite.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As surprising as it may sound, most billionaires do not arrive there through competence. They get there by way of inheritance and privilege.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Why does he hate free speech so much?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's like one step away from claiming the Jews control the world's money supply.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't Elon bring this on himself by keeping the Nazis though ?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Not even keeping, explicitly adding them back and unbanning them, and letting them make decisions to ban leftists who spoke out against it (andy ngo recommending people to the chopping block comes to mind)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Not only keeping but returning en masse.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

What a fucking loser.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 15 points 1 year ago

That's not very free market of you bro.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

He’s suing the anti-defamation league for… defamation. Is this a YouTube prank?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (22 children)

gotta love America where not making as much money as you wanted is a crime

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