Everything I'm hearing about this game is exactly what I expected from it. Bland, soulless, empty, buggy as hell, terrible writing, etc.
I can't even enjoy being smug anymore, though. I don't like being smug now. It feels bad.
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Everything I'm hearing about this game is exactly what I expected from it. Bland, soulless, empty, buggy as hell, terrible writing, etc.
I can't even enjoy being smug anymore, though. I don't like being smug now. It feels bad.
The gaming industry treats their devs like shit and it shows
Honestly, I don't know why anyone is surprised by Bethesda being crappy anymore
If Fallout 76 and Redfall didn't convince anyone they're willing to publish absolutely unfinished gibberish, I don't know what will
You don't even need to go that recent. Fallout 4 was trash. Skyrim was bland. Fallout 3 and Oblivion had fun side stuff but the main quests totally sucked.
"NASApunk" as a proposed big faddish next new aesthetic sounds bleak to me, not least of all because of how much of that has already been appropriated by cultists as it is.
In a way I kind of hope Starfield is only as popular as it deserves to be, flaws and all, and doesn't cause ten years of imitations.
NASApunk
give me sovietwave please its so much better than the cringe this word elicits
Sovietwave would have some seriously awesome-trippy colorful art, too.
Neat music as well. Bethesda never has the balls to make a communist faction
Also the idea of just having another "capitalism in space simulator" is annoying. Let me be a soviet partisan.
smh the woke agenda censoring my leftism again smh
Also the idea of just having another "capitalism in space simulator" is annoying.
It's downright bleak to me that 99% of video games with space civilizations are focused on mercantilism in space or exploited truckers in space or some kind of predatory capitalist dystopia in space.
I just want me some fully automated luxury gay space communism, not fucking blade runner with spaceships.
They really saw the cyberpunk dystopias of the 80s and went: woah thats so cool, we should have that in everything now unironically
They really saw the cyberpunk dystopias of the 80s and went: woah thats so cool, we should have that in everything now unironically
I used to be a massive cyberpunk genre enjoyer but I am getting really sick and tired of the horny-but-ideologically-vapid version of it that drops the punk and inflates the cyber and is loaded with enlightened centrist bullshit.
Because the ruling class likes that version, it's the dominant version.
was so excited about The Expanse and started financing the show because he thought that the setting was a great place to live for rich monsters like himself.
I kinda don't mind the aesthetic. It's better than all things being and will be hard for the awooga people to mod without completely and totally breaking the aesthetic. The effort that will be necessary for clothing mods in this game is going to be very high because there's pipes and shit hanging off them in all directions. It's not an easy art style to mod for.
I actually think that's partly why it won't catch on. It's a hard aesthetic to do and everything in the industry is about streamlining your asset creation. That and doing it in an optimised way is just not possible, and I don't think any other companies like putting out things that perform this poorly.
The factions seem uninspired right now and after a few hours I have absolutely zero emotional investment in literally anything at all. It's a run, kill, loot, gameplay loop with so far absolutely no emotionally interesting anything, the space stuff only brings to the table disjointed fast travel and terrible space fighting. Oh and since it's not Fallout the one thing that makes up for Bethesda's terrible shooting the VATS system isn't here, so you just have Bethesda's terrible shooting with no redeeming features.
If it can't emotionally invest the player in any of its universe building then it's just going to leave people feeling like the aesthetic itself is the problem, when in reality the problem is most likely that Bethesda has no creative talent left at all and can only rehash rather than create anything new.
I can't stress enough how disjointed it feels travelling between planet ground, your ship interior(loading screen), your ship seat, takeoff loading screen, go into menu, find place you want to go, fast travel (loading screen) to place, watch cut scene of your ship flying from A to B, look at planet you're now orbiting, go into menu, select planet, select landing site, watch cut scene of you landing(loading screen), get out of chair, walk to door of ship, loading screen, get on ground of new planet.
All of this should be seamless by now it's SOOOOO disjointed and feels really bad.
Oh I also think my computer would probably run Star Citizen with more frames. So there's that too. Not that I want to but it's a serious mark against it.
I kinda don't mind the aesthetic. It's better than all things being and will be hard for the awooga people to mod without completely and totally breaking the aesthetic.
You got me there. I concede that it's a plus that it isn't yet another grimy "mature" quasi-medieval backdrop or another edgy/horny tech-neon setting with a lot of cyber and very little punk.
After reading the rest of your post, sounds like grimy "mature" quasi-medieval backdrops and/or edgy/horny tech-neon settings with a lot of cyber and very little punk are likely not going to get changed out with "AAA" game development for the forseeable future.
The game seems to literally look bleak and washed out as well, every screenshot or video clip is colorless as hell.
It's more mature or whatever but yeah to me it's dull and lazy with excuses.
Who coined “NASApunk”? I need to know so I can shout at them until I’m blue in the face it’s so stupid.
I’m tired of people just abusing language and just smashing words they don’t understand together to make a shorter words that are even more incomprehensible.
When people use “punk” in this way they prove they only understand it as an aesthetic and not it’s ideology whatsoever.
Or fuck it maybe I’ll just give in. Everyone knows there is nothing more punk than a literal government agency.
The whole NASApunk thing is so funny. First off, it's the epitome of the modern corporate cyberpunk trend. So we have this trend of adding -punk to aesthetic styles without even thinking about punk. Then we have the trend of soulless companies unironically trying to produce cyberpunk content. So Bethesda is trying to create its own punk style that has zero punk. Very bizarre but also very expected.
So let's ignore this ridiculous "NASApunk" misnomer and just look at it as NASA aesthetics in science fiction. Well, we already have that in the form of retrofuturistic art from the 60s to 80s - oftentimes commissioned or made by NASA. If you want something to look like NASA, you paint it white with some black detailing. That is the classic NASA aesthetic. If you're borrowing from this period of NASA-inspired futurism, then your world should have rotating space habitats, moon bases, mass drivers, big spaceplanes, space-based solar, and obviously ROCKETS!! But from what I've seen so far, Starfield takes very little from these aesthetics. "NASApunk" is just bulky spacesuits and spaceships that aren't pristine transposed onto a generic scifi world where capitalism exists in the 24th century, there's dogfighting in outer space, and FTL and artificial gravity is trivial.
wait so even for this game supposedly their magnum opus they didn't change the god damn engine??
Bethesda is never ditching gamebryo
It's provably the oldest engine still in triple A use, unless you count the Quake 1 code still around in bits of HL:Alyx
Starfield?
What's that?
The only Bethesda game I care about is Daggerfall 1996 for Windows 95
oh cool there's a reliable source on the seas for it already?
Bethesda, you fools why would I pay $69.99 for Fallout 4 in space when I can get it for free 24 hours after it releases. I will set my 1060 on fire but I will do it at no upfront cost
The fact that there are people who paid money for the game who can't play it yet, while pirates can freely download it, is just
This is part of the reason why I hate Nvidia's DLSS. It has made some devs lazier and they're like "just turn on DLSS"....
Why don't you optimize your game?
It's a Bethesda game, of course it runs like crap.
but it's the other Miyazaki
oh you people wanted a functional video game?
There are times I'm unhappy to be right about something I was being pessimistic about, I'll admit this isn't really one of those times
Bethesda and have had a massive ego problem for almost 2 decades now and they've been past their prime since before Oblivion, kinda hope they eat shit on this a bit
This game lets you "do everything" but it has giant mechs that aren't able to be piloted while Armored Core 6 just lets you pilot the giant mech and does that well, I know which I prefer
It’s impressive how bad the performance is. I had to use AMD Adrenalin to limit it to 60fps to stop it from crashing immediately. Not that it was running higher than 20 at that point anyway.
All settings to lowest. Had to lower my monitor’s resolution to 1080p because the game doesn’t have a normal fullscreen option, only borderless, and no way to downscale.
After all of that it runs at a buttery 25-30fps looking worse than Skyrim which can run at 144 without a second thought. I genuinely don’t understand what the fuck they did, low settings look maybe equivalent to medium on Skyrim, a 12 year old game, while running so much worse.
My graphics card certainly isn’t the newest but there is absolutely no reason it shouldn’t be able to run any game coming out now at least on low.
when was the last time bethesda made an actually good game? not a template for modders, not a "it's good but," a genuinely quality game.
New Vegas. But I guess Obsidian made that.
Morrowind is good on its own. Fallout 3 is...ok. The rest are whatever.
Playing a pirated copy at 60 fps on 5800x/3070 near max settings using the DLSS mod scaling 720p up to 1440p in 21:9. Maybe I have bad taste but I'm enjoying it a lot. Similar to Fallout 4 but with much better writing. Le capitalism in space. Takes itself pretty seriously.
So far I've been able to
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agree to blow up a stolen ship for a corrupt official, lie to the pirates on board and pretend to be a pirate, get found out immediately when boarding. Then by luck I convinced them not to kill me with a difficult speech check, I agree to let them keep the ship and in exchange they give me an incriminating letter about the official. I then lie and tell the official that I blew it up and then report them to authorities.
Compared to Fallout 4 which consisted of "Go shoot these guys who are bad because they're bad guys", this is a breath of fresh air. The fact that you can talk to many enemies rather than kill on sight is very nice. The dialogue is revamped and speech checks are a series of luck-based dialogue choices that make it feel a lot less like "I think you should just give me everything for nothing in return"
Really this is all I've wanted in a Bethesda RPG. Compared to previous releases I'm comfortable saying that this is the most stable at launch so far. I'm a couple hours in and really haven't seen many bugs beyond animation glitches.
If you like Bethesda RPGs I fail to see how you wouldn't like this. Though the "$35 extra to play on labor day weekend" was scummy.
I’m playing it at 1440p on a 2070 super and ryzen 5 3600, with 32gb ram. I haven’t touched any settings and it seems to be running great. Although i haven’t actually checked my frame count and I’m not very fps sensitive in the first place so I dunno
That's some impressively bad performance.
Don't worry the community will fix it for them for free over the next two years.
and just said that it's the game that has had the most QA ever put into it at Bethesda. ig if you add 4 people to the QA team it's a 5 person team atleast
They did 100 times as much QA on this game as they normally do (100 * 0 = 0)
Yeah, it appears to have some issues with 2000/3000 series RTX cards. People with like GTX 970s are getting equal or better performance than 2080 Tis and shit.
Might be something to do with hardware. My friends have been getting 60-70, though Idk what hardware they have. Or drivers?