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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

the Dems are in cahoots with the same elite that are in cahoots with the Reps. the dems and reps pretend to be on opposite ends of a spectrum, but they are both sucking up to capitalists and their corporations

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago

we shall destroy the democratic party and rebuild it in our image

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party are not friends to the people. They get rich being the opposition party and will only do the bare minimum necessary to get you to not vote the monsters back in, which is one of the reasons far-right parties are getting a draw world-wide when the alternative is neoliberalism.

We have to force radical change (the no brainer stuff like social safety nets, massive justice reform, and massive election reform).

The Sword of Damocles is twofold: the revolution of the people, and the wrath of rival dictators. And it's not to be blunted, but to keep our officials serving the public rather than their own private interests.

🧵⚔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It is so pleasant to see that people in the US understand that.

This is the extreme example, but if you look at Russia, that separation between the public and the politics had happened a long time ago. Now it is impossible to even convince people that politics has to serve their interests, and not the rich. And we see with the invasion how these lofeviews eventually unfolds.

Wish Americans to be strong in their transformation into the real civil society. And wish you luck and to have required support for this transformation.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's fun watching you kids realize that the Democratic party isn't the place to go for real change. I was there after Kucinich lost the primary in 2000 and then when Gore gave up fighting for his votes.

Also: You have to vote for them no matter how much you hate them. If Fetterman wins his primary next time I MUST vote for him or I am letting Republicans win.

As opposed to Chuck Schumer who also lets Republicans win.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was there after Kucinich lost the primary in 2000 and then when Gore gave up fighting for his votes.

Me too grandpa.🙂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

You kids and your Gores and Kuciniches. Pepperidge Farm remembers Mondale/Ferraro. Shit, we remember McGovern.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Im working on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

Its as if the oligarchs dont like it when a candidate that is not endorsed by them wins

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

DNC=Divide N Conquer

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Trump barely beat Harris.

Cuomo got crushed in this primary.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Did the DNC say something about Mamdani?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Did hitler murder anybody?

An extreme example, sure, but if you control an apparatus, how much responsibility should you take for their actions?

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I was just asking because I literally didn't know what this was referring to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Donald Trump is useful to the real power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

getting pretty close to time to just start referring to the DNC as fascist adjacent. playing lame duck to this particular psychopath is way too old and fucking irresponsible a decade later.

especially when they pull this crap at the same time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Nationalism ✔️ imperialism ✔️ mixed economy for the benefit of the bourgeoisie ✔️ labor suppression ✔️ caters to middle class&petty bourgeois ✔️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you never thought these people were there for you. At least after the age of about 22, 23?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

you're right, it was exactly 23 for me. how did you know? did we get the same radicalization update from the Clinton family trying to make the Whitehouse a family home like the Bush's did?

[–] [email protected] 133 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget Bernie.

DNC had the same exact response. With the same exact Trump.

Took the DNC ten fucking years to pull their head out of their ass long enough to complain about young men populism being the key to victory, despite literally pissing away all the young men populism voters they had with Bernie Sanders.

Thank fuck it's now blatantly obvious with Zohran.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not confident they will get it this time. Or care

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

I mean really they don't, I'm pretty sure 180 just voted against the impeachment of Trump. Literally just waiting to see which shill geriatric they'll put up for 2028 and pull the same "vote for us or suffer Republicans" bs for the next election.

I keep saying that if progressives in the DNC are being constantly blocked and cheated out of power, they need to split off and make their own party. They're afraid that if they do, they'll lose a majority against Republicans, but that's already true because even bargain basement protection laws barely pass when the Dems do have a majority in congress, and they actively support bs Republican bills when a minority like right now.

Splitting would render the DNC useless and simultaneously tap into the huge block of nonvoters that would turnout like how Mamdani's voter base was largely a grassroots campaign.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They are always the JV team to the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

I like this analogy.

The Democrats are playing the game.

The Republicans are playing the rules of the game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I agree completely. Just to clarify: The DNC absolutely will not get it or care. This is what I was describing as more "apparant" now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Agreed. And why we need a new party. Organize and take back control of our country

[–] [email protected] 120 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

So funny to see in real time the difference between their phony outrage over Trump’s arguably monstrous policies, VS their genuine fear over a socialist winning a mayoral race.

This is why everyone who claims the way to fix Dems is via primaries is wrong. Dems will lie, cheat, or simply not hold primaries altogether, rather than risk an actual leftist winning the nomination.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I still think we should support those that do primary if just to show the flippant double standards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Plus it’s good if some of them win and pull the party in a reasonable direction. And having decent people in government is always nice.

The structural flaws in our elections that force us into a two-party system are deeply entrenched and they aren’t going to change until this place burns down and starts over. If you aren’t willing to vote for a politician with good priorities because they were nominated by the democratic party, you can still be an influential voice but come election time the system is already designed to ignore your vote.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

I've heard the "we should primary them and pull them in a direction"

And after a few cycles of this I realized why the Democratic icon is an ass: Because they're stubborn, ornery, and will refuse to understand.

We are entirely fucked.

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