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I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

Reclaim patriotism. Republicans love to wrap themselves in the flag, progressives need to do the same thing. It's just a piece of the whole, but seeing pics of the LA protests with Mexican flags flying - that doesn't help bring American voters to a cause.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

A little out of the blue but I watched an episode of a German cooking show today where strangers are coupled in groups of five for a week and every day one of them has to cook for the rest of them. They then vote who was the best host.

This week was ALL 30-38 year-old straight Dads. Nobody talked about football.

Nobody chestbumped anyone. Nobody was mansplaning anything. Instead, they were all swooning over each others' cooking skills, making each other cry over how much they love their kids and hugging each other for feeling insecure about their cooking. In other words it was the most realistic and "manly" portrayal of the male reality that I have seen in the media ever.

It's easy to blame the media and the "culture war" for male alienation but I strongly believe that our perception of ourselves is largely influenced by our peer group's portrayal in society. In other words: if I feel antagonized, I tend to overreact. If I am being told by Hollywood or social media to "stop being a mansplaning patriarch" I will be imprinted with the very idea to identify as such.

So long story short: non-toxic masculinity needs more representation AND it needs to come from a place of positivity, not judgement or condescension.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Idk how do you "sell" being a decent fucking person?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Simple. What do young men care about? Getting laid and getting paid. Promise them that, and you'll get their votes.

You'll need to use coded language, of course. But using coded language is politicians' whole job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

You need to make it fun and engaging for them. That is what the far right is doining. You and I might find it reprehensible, but they het som much traction bu having fun and giving young men a purpose and the feeling that they are doing something to netter themselves and their commuity.

How you go about that I dont know. In my local area we are focusing on having fun partiets and going out together as a group instead of just being political nerds in our own little grottos. Som far it seems to be working.

Tl;dr: Have fun visibly and invite them to join you. It takes forever, but at least you have fun while doing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I KNOW! Let’s make June Men’s Mental Health month instead of… wait was it again?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago

Promote and get behind actual progressive candidates, not corporatist shills like Hillary or Kamala. I like Kshama Sawant because she calls shit like she sees it.

[–] Texas_Hangover 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Quit trying to make young white men feel guilty for existing. I come from poor white trash. As near as I can tell, my family never benefitted from slavery in any possible way. So fuck you. I dont feel bad about something I didn't do, no one in my family did, and we aint gonna pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know where this "white guilt" stuff comes from. I'm the same demo as you, but never felt that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh boy you surely never were a part of the target then

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

You are losing the class war, that's what matters. Not you being young, or white, or a man.

[–] Bakkoda 11 points 8 hours ago

Education. You will never be able to explain taxes in a way that can counter propaganda if the person is an idiot. You just won't. And until then it's an uphill battle.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Talk about issues that affect the working class. Not the white working class, not working class men, just everyone who makes a living by drawing a wage. Progressive movements are formed by solidarity, and we have more in common with other working class people than any of the politicians or business leaders who set the tone of this debate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago

Well it would be a good starting point if we actually had progressive politicians. The Democrats lose because they have no substantive platform for actually helping people because doing that would go against their donors. To be clear, it’s the same for Republicans. There’s a reason why the government just ping pongs between the two parties. The only reliable base either party has is the one that’s more culturally aligned with them, whatever that means at the time.

If they literally ever credibly ran on basic issues like housing, food, healthcare and the elections were fair, they would win. But they don’t, because they can’t, so they will never have consistent support.

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