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[–] [email protected] 1 points 56 minutes ago

Can people learn about dictators that aren't Adolf Hitler? Please?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

They actually are.

Non-violent resistances have historically had double the effectiveness of violent resistance movements. Violent resistances generally just get a bunch of people killed and only makes things worse.

The reason is simple. It's a numbers game. Only a few psychopaths want violence and those few are easily dealt with by police. Sometimes they can especially troublesome and need to be dealt with by the military (LA isn't one of those cases, Trump is just an idiot). It's only the very rare case that a violent resistance topples a government and in those cases it's just replacing one group of authoritarian psychos replacing another group. The French revolution ended up with a King being replaced by an Emperor after a whole lot of people died.

Meanwhile a non-violent movement can attract more numbers. You only need single digit percentages of the population to participate in things like general strikes to make an authoritarian regime collapse. But you aren't getting those numbers with a violent resistance, people have families to think about and violent resistances are easily vilified. An authoritarian regime can exercise violence against a violent resistance and kill it. If an authoritarian regime uses violence against a non-violent resistance it's clear to everyone who the villains are and an every broader number of people will participate and subtle and secretive ways.

History bears this out, a violent resistances don't work unless there's foreign backing and even then it's unlikely to succeed. Non-violent resistances have double the probability of success. Non-violent resistances are just about psychopaths that want to burn things down coming up with bullshit rationalizations for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Which ones, name them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

If not for Napoleon we'd still be all ruled by kings in Europe. You can argue the cost wasn't worth it, but given you didn't even give a famous textbook example of "peaceful protests work", it's safe to say your point is mostly BS.

After what happened in the 40s it's fucking insulting to say that holding hands can save the world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, technically, the Germans could have voted in a majority party on the left in the early 1930s and when that did fail they still could have just not voted for literal nazis.

So, Yeah. That was an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The vote was taken under gunpoint, quite famously, actually. Even then, the leaders of two of the leftmost political parties made a point of voting against it, making the rather valid point that the nazis were going to kill them anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Little known fact that the Nazis were at last turned back at Stalingrad by the wittiest picket sign made in the Soviet Union. The sign, which used a mock spelling of Hitler's name, simply read "A doof, Hitler". Many historians believe that the German military never fully recovered from this humiliation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Head cocked to the left.

Partial verbal wit in battle.

First point of attack.

Two. Eyes. Paralyse vocal cords with astute observation. Stop the speech centers.

Three. Got to be partially deaf. Shrewd retort to the ears.

Four. Finally, draw a facetious sign. Make it sharp.

Summary prognosis: Consciousness lost in 90 seconds

Martial efficacy: quarter of an hour at best.

Full faculty of recovery from psychological damage, unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Fighting back is often the only choice you're left with when Nazis gain power, but I do wish people would keep in mind there's a difference between strategizing and being smart about how and when you fight back vs encouraging individuals to run full speed at the entire U.S. military with a bullseye on their forehead.

Also, if you're bringing fascists and rule of law into this, hopefully you're not wilfully ignoring how they gain power in the first place, or the fact that the Nazis literally used a legal expert that provided them with the legal shield they needed to carry out a genocide without ever breaking the law.

Carl Schmitt

Or that one of Trump's biggest defenders against the "crooked courts" that keep getting in his way, and leaving him with no choice but to act like a dictator, is a Harvard Constitutional Law professor who also just happens to be a Carl Schmitt fanboy.

Adrian Vermeule-OUR SCHMITTIAN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW

Common-Good Constitutionalism Is an Idea as Dangerous as They Come

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

So...the republicans were right all this time?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

This reminds me of a discussion I was having with Hexbear members on Lemmy recently.

I was suggesting that perhaps it makes sense for the UK to have nukes, for self-defence against other nuclear countries like Russia, China, and potentially even the US, given their unpredictable behaviour. People from Hexbear got angry at this suggestion. One of them suggested that it's immoral to have nukes because nukes are "threatening civilians".

Maybe the OP image of this thread is right though: megalomaniacs are not deterred by words, but they are deterred by weapons (such as nukes). Ukraine was invaded because they didn't have enough deterrents. Iran is currently being bombed because I suppose they also didn't have enough deterrents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Bet they also think Russia should have nukes to stave off western imperialism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

All weapons of war threaten civilians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Potentially. I think it depends on how they're used. If a country decides to completely disarm itself though, then it's entirely possible that other countries will seek to invade and subjugate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine actually gave their nukes on the promise of future safety. We all saw how that worked out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. If Ukraine had their own nukes by the time of 2014, or if they had been part of NATO, then maybe Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

"More nukes" is never a good solution to any problem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I think ideally there would be no nukes in the world, because they are dangerous. But nukes do exist. If western countries got rid of their nukes, then the remaining nuclear countries would be able to do what they like. "Surrender to our demands or we will nuke your cities."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps not a good one, but still a solution, when a bear gets overly familiar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

Bear

Beets

Battlestar Galactica

[–] jumping_redditor 1 points 11 hours ago

what if your nuclear weapon collection is looking too small? How, other than getting more nukes, does on remedy this problem?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We will see in four years (or less depending if anything horrifically dramatic happens). But when violence has to happen, get ready to exercise your second amendment rights.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How is people being disappeared to concentration camp not already horrifically dramatic?

How is elected officials being arrested for asking for a warrant, or asking questions not already horrifically dramatic?

How is sending our own military and arresting civilians in L.A. not already horrifically dramatic?

Where the fuck is your line?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, there is plausible deniability that allow the US government to do what they're doing. In spite of some rulings which tell Trump administration that they are wrong, there are still some actions where they have legal backing, moral or not.

Legal =/= moral.

That's just how the world works I'm afraid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I guess my initial reply was too many words to be understood fully. So I'll be more succinct.

**Something horrifically dramatic has already happened, it's already time for us to use our 2A rights for communal self defense. **

Otherwise I agree with what you just said, but I felt like you missed my point, so I wanted to say it in no uncertain terms.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Why wait? Fascism is here, now! Punch a Nazi today!!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We don't have to like it, but it's undeniable that cops treat protestors in plated vests with rifles different than they treat protestors in tshirts with signs...

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (17 children)

And this is why I am a proud gun owning liberal.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Armed minorites are harder to oppress.

Didn't the gun laws in California happen specifically after black Panthers open carried near a town hall?

Could be misremembering

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

You are not misremembering.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

And if you see someone being taken away by fascists, make sure you and everyone else watching dont do anything except film it to post on social media. Maybe if you're feeling adventurous you can tell the brown shirts what theyre doing is bad, just make sure you dont do anything to actually stop them.

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