this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
324 points (97.9% liked)

politics

24177 readers
3615 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

What? Because that guy only killed two Democrats, or what?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

Why does Trump need to call Walz? It's obvious they're not going to be on the same page about this or cooperate. The call would just be a waste of both their time.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They're all going out of their way to blame the assassination on Waltz, of all people.

[–] pelespirit 29 points 14 hours ago

Not the republican that did it.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Listen, I'm a piece of shit criminal with credible evidence of sexually assaulting 28 women. Why would you expect me to act like a decent human being?

[–] [email protected] 97 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Good opportunity for Walz to say, "fuck no I don't want to talk to the guy whose rhetoric instigated this."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Walz to his secretary: “Tell him I’m not here right now”

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

Tell him I'll call him back on February 31st.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 101 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 97 points 20 hours ago

The projection.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 18 hours ago

Who gives a shit what Trump says?

TACO bout your own circus, you fucking clown.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 20 hours ago

Don't bother: Walz has enough on his mind.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, he should've been there to shoot that man! What a loser!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If only there was a good guy with a gun to save the day.

\s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Funny how there's almost never a good guy with a gun, like statistically almost never. There was that cowboy that shot an active shooter in a church, and I'll give props to the guy the ran into Uvalde when the uniformed bad guys were too chicken shit to save kids lives, and just hung outside. I can't think of any off the top of my head, although I know they exist, but I could prattle off at least a dozen high profile shootings.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There was one just this weekend. A guy with a rifle popped up at a Utah No Kings rally. Two people who were on hand to protect the protesters stopped what would have almost certainly been a mass casualty event.

Sadly, an innocent bystander was killed by the defenders. And that is the real issue. Guns are extremely dangerous even when used properly. Even good guys with a gun are not perfect and innocent people are often injured or killed on accident. We have too many guns in this country and not enough regulation and enforcement.

[–] ironhydroxide 5 points 7 hours ago

Even in this case, it wasn't the random "good guy with a gun". It was a member of the peacekeeping group setup by the event organizers. IE, it was their job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Last stat I saw was 1in 7000, but that includes cases with collateral damage.

So, for America, that's like once a year.

[–] vaultdweller013 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Usually the good guys with guns are militia or are shot by the cops. A damned fine example I know of happened after WW2 where when a bunch of men got back to their home county they basically had to form a militia to expel the corrupt sheriff who was doing shit like ballot stuffing. Spoiler the sheriff and his mafia goons didn't stand a chance against men who just got done fighting the Imperial Japanese and Nazi Germany.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think it was in Athens McMinn county Tennessee, specifically Athens Tennessee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

It sounds like an interesting story, kind of a Walking Tall kind of thing.

[–] Jiggle_Physics 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There was that guy in colorado who shot a mass shooter, then the cops killed him

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

Oof. Double dipping on the baddies with guns on that one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This is sooo false it's not even funny. There are way more DGUs than there are not.

And like it or not most mass shootings are stopped by someone with a firearm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are way more DGUs than there are not.

I think this is a pretty gigantic citation needed here. I couldn't find anything supporting this assertion but plenty of material showing the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

Before the CDC took it off the site, they had reference to an estimated 500-2.5mil DGUs a year. DGUs are hard to estimate because a dgu can be as simple as presenting the firearm to a would be attacker and the attacker leaving the victim(s) alone. Most people don't call the police because of this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

DGU. I didn't know they invented an initialism at the rallies.

most mass shootings are stopped by

..the perp taking his own life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

…the perp taking his own life.

Well, technically, that is someone with a firearm I suppose...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

It's literally a term.

And no it's not.

You stay unarmed while fascist are roaming the street.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 19 hours ago

What a fucking piece of shit.