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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 week ago

Shocking. Who'd have guessed that this could happen?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I’m no Israel supporter but fuck the IRGC. I hope Iranians can at least get a regime change out of this. Death to khamenei and death to all the IRGC leadership. I hope they all become kotlets.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let’s hope for the same in Israel. Both need it badly.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago

Well, Iran has the right to defend itself

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh man it's gonna be a good day when Israel falls.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (29 children)

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps this map will help:

To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.

The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.

The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.

Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This website

You realize Lemmy is a network of federated servers right? Like, I’m not on the same website as you but you’re reading my message.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

A lot of people don't, they just know it's where to go when you get fed up with reddit

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It's not just their total disconnect from history (were they born yesterday?), it's their translating scorn for Israel's actions in the region to mean that Israel's opponents must be the good guys.

Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years. Just because the Shah was bad doesn't make the Ayatollahs good.

Hamas and Hezbollah are literally terrorist organizations, and Hamas holds onto power in Gaza by oppression and violence. If they both weren't getting massive support from Iran, there might be a negotiating partner for Israel in Palestine like Arafat was.

Without Iran's support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Israel is literally a terrorist country.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't say Iran was going to singlehandedly do it

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah the entire discourse about this conflict here is even more stupider than on reddit

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (10 children)

As always, the article primarily gives the view as seen from Israel, Tel Aviv; But where is the view from Iran?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You haven't seen people singing from their balconies during the night time: "death to khamenei!", have you?

That's the view from Iran. Do you accept the reality though... 💁

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You’re downvoted but you’re correct. Iranians hate their government (rightfully so, it’s a repressive religious extremist police state) and will hopefully use the chance of a weakened Khamenei to finally overthrow the mullahs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. Iranians hate their government and want regime change, it's dubious wether this will help. Most likely it will be used by the regime for more crackdowns and cheap propaganda.

It is dubious wether bombing from afar can even achieve the stated goal (stopping the nuclear program). Hoping it will somehow magically bring about regime change is a stretch.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd rather prefer both sides losing.

And then a proper democratic revolution on both sides again.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Lemmy straight up cheering theocratic terrorists

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Ilovethebomb 27 points 1 week ago (34 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The title suggest that Israel's bombing in the first place was New Hope?

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