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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Nice. Iran has the right to defend itself.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (14 children)

I wouldn't include Nice, but I agree with that.

Israel came in and started an act of war. If it was flipped, news would be screaming about Iran being a warmonger.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago (38 children)

I’m no Israel supporter but fuck the IRGC. I hope Iranians can at least get a regime change out of this. Death to khamenei and death to all the IRGC leadership. I hope they all become kotlets.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Let’s hope for the same in Israel. Both need it badly.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I mean, fuck Hamas too. They’re far right fundamentalists. But fuck Israel so much harder. And for the time being the enemy of my enemy, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Since Zionist colonialism began, the region has been drawn from one conflict to another. It operates like a cancerous tumor.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago

Well, Iran has the right to defend itself

[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 days ago

Shocking. Who'd have guessed that this could happen?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Iran's current regime has committed many crimes, while I hate them, I also hate Israel who's committing an active genocide. Israel is a foreign entity, Iran is not. Today its Iran, tomorrow its some other country.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (10 children)

As always, the article primarily gives the view as seen from Israel, Tel Aviv; But where is the view from Iran?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You haven't seen people singing from their balconies during the night time: "death to khamenei!", have you?

That's the view from Iran. Do you accept the reality though... 💁

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You’re downvoted but you’re correct. Iranians hate their government (rightfully so, it’s a repressive religious extremist police state) and will hopefully use the chance of a weakened Khamenei to finally overthrow the mullahs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yes. Iranians hate their government and want regime change, it's dubious wether this will help. Most likely it will be used by the regime for more crackdowns and cheap propaganda.

It is dubious wether bombing from afar can even achieve the stated goal (stopping the nuclear program). Hoping it will somehow magically bring about regime change is a stretch.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Oh man it's gonna be a good day when Israel falls.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (39 children)

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This website

You realize Lemmy is a network of federated servers right? Like, I’m not on the same website as you but you’re reading my message.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

A lot of people don't, they just know it's where to go when you get fed up with reddit

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps this map will help:

To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago

Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.

The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.

The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.

Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.

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