Why not? Corporations are?
this post was submitted on 31 May 2025
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here is the thing: corporations should not be given first amendment rights, they are not human. the people inside the corp? sure! 100%. the corp acting as an entity? never. if they can’t be destroyed by the state for their criminal acts, like people can, then they should not have the other promises (“rights”) in the constitution.
I generally agree with your conclusions but want to point out that corporations absolutely could (and in some cases should) be destroyed by the state.
“could” and “do” are different things - the system is what it does. and what it does is treat profit as more important than anything else.
Sure and I don't disagree there, just wanted to clarify that it's not some immutable property of corporations or governments that governments cannot destroy corporations. Corporations are a legal fiction that a properly empowered government could revoke the charter of where appropriate. I believe I've heard it called the "corporate death penalty" and if I were king I'd be doing it to a number of repeat offenders immediately.
There are of course some human consequences for taking drastic action against corporations. But in many cases -- surely more than the 0% of the time the government does it -- the good outweighs the bad.
Newspapers depends on being corporations with free speech rights. IMHO the limits should rather be around stuff like lobbying and stricter overall requirements on truthfulness.
They were, but now maybe any press releases written by AI might not be, lol.
They’re software.
Copyright is for stuff produced by people, not tools. Passing a board through a planer doesn’t make it copyrighted, either.
woosh Corporations are considered people in the court of law.
Except that LLMs are not corporations. they're owned by corporations.
If corporations are considered people in the court of law how are they allowed to own other corporations? Would this not be slavery and in violation of the constitution?
Corporations are a group of people. Those people have the right to free speech, even when they're organized into a corporation. A corporation owning another company isn't slavery because the employees can quit if they'd like to. Slaves would be brutally beaten or shot dead if they tried to leave.
It was a joke.
You bring up a good point, but the Supreme Court doesn't care about your logical reasoning. The law is still what it is.
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Getting an early start on legal precedent to ensure subjugation of whatever entities may arise from this new focus on Counterfeit Cognizance...
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I really do think you’re front-loading an ethical matter that has absolutely zero relevance to our current society. I fucking ADORE The Measure of a Man - it’s one of my all-time favorite TNG episodes - but the use of LLMs and image/vidgen as disinformation/propaganda generators is a clear and present danger to our society as it now stands, and regulation needs to be imposed if we don’t want to have the public sphere of knowledge and common understanding fed entirely into the wood chipper (and it’s already halfway in there, tbh)
Plus we're still a long way off from real artificial intelligence like the Noonien Soong positronic brain.
It does put a target on the back of any political operative using them to spread misinfo or stirring the pot. In fact it opens the door for ai bans.