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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Kamala Harris just chooses whatever she thinks will further her career. She chose poorly. She's just lucky the party was stupid enough to have elevated her to vice president even after her debate performance was so bad that she dropped out before the 2020 presidential race even started. Then the idiotic party elevated her again after Biden (another opportunist piece of garbage who was elevated by the party) was forced to step down after his embarrassing 2024 debate performance was obvious to even deluded party insiders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

It is perfectly fine, in fact it would be incredibly refreshing & welcome, to admit...she was a shitty candidate. Fuck, she was so terribly bad. And Tim Walz was a bad pick, too.

Everything was fake. Every day it unraveled more. She was caught saying things like, "I am different than Biden, I am not Biden, do not let his presidency reflect on me." What would you do differently? "Nothing, I wouldn't change anything." Okay....so....how are you different if everything Biden did was totally great & you wouldn't do anything differently?? 🤡 Heavily paraphrased, of course, the convos were more detailed (which only made it worse).

It's fine to say Kamala Harris was a cringe candidate. Completely unwanted, unelected, unqualified. Biden bowed out & the DNC shoved her in; there is no logical reason to continue to own her as your candidate & representative. You don't bring dead babies to Passover. This is an opportunity to rebrand the Democrat Party, to refocus on issues that actually matter. That is to say....if anyone still gives a goddamn about the issues that actually matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. The DNC either don't realise, or refuse to realise, that electing Trump is not in approval of him, but expression of disapproval of the Democratic Party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

The Schumer Strategy. They just can't give it up no matter how many times it fails. (they will try again)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

If she wasn't going to be participating in a genocide, then she maybe could have won

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

i hate the dnc but my perspective is mostly dont vote for the fascist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

That disqualifies democrats as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Sadly there's a lot of ignorant and stupid voters out there. It's fun to watch leopards eat their faces as a bitter consolation prize now that we're in a full-ass fascist hell.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, but Trump does the same. Kamala had better taxes planned for the working class and the poor. Trump also has a very poor track record. You can blame Kamala for not doing it right, but imo the issue is mass disinformation and people being extremily dumb.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Lol.. it's because the electorate is a bunch of morons. The DNC knows this, but they underestimate to what extent. They figured they could just bypass the whole election process thing and slide Kamala into the final ticket, but they also figured that people were intelligent enough to know that fascists are bad. America is filled with morons, and this carnival ride is going to come to a screeching halt, crushing a significant number of the riders underneath its rusty undercarriage when it does.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

I never felt Harris actually stood for anything. This is easily the first election where I felt all the decisions made by the DNC were hard wrong - and I already thought the DNC fucked everything up when the turned on Sanders - but this time they really chose every bad option they could. A senior citizen that was absolutely having problems (outside the debate performance) and choosing an inclusivity* candidate that really had a checkered past of making climbing the ladder a priority while having no real policy gains or stances. Even in the lead up to everything, the other candidates were all but brushed aside. No real debate over policy or where the country was going.

She said whatever middle of the road thing needed to be said to appeal to enough people while leveling mealy criticism at best for the real problems, from Israel’s shitty war to attacks worker’s right in the US. We went from a candidate that should have never run again to a candidate that hadn’t given anyone a reason to want her to run at all at the last minute. And that’s awful, especially to lose against trump.

  • I hate to even say it, but the fact is that the DNC wanted to run a black female. They banked on the (I can’t think of the word/name for it - people who want to do things for a minority community, but do so cluelessly, remove agency of the group, disregard the actual needs and culture of the group. Usually modestly wealthy white people making “programs” for minority communities) people to vote for the feel-good of voting a minority person up while not actually thinking that people would have needs and policy concerns that would influence their vote, or their willingness to vote at all. The DNC already had “protect the rich white people” as a top priority. They didn’t think people were smart enough to sense that, and everyone really had a feeling that the Democrats didn’t care about them anymore.

Edit: found it. It’s “white saviorism” or “white savior complex.”

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I see a lot of these postmortems and I don't know what combination of them is the actual truth, but I wasn't the slightest bit surprised when she lost. As soon as she got the nomination I thought it was likely.

For what it's worth, here is my take on her as one Californian that's had to deal with her since before 2010 when she ran for attorney general:

  • Even before she ran for attorney general, I was constantly hearing about all kinds of awful stuff the SF district attorney's office was doing under her leadership even though I'm not from SF county.
  • I was very disappointed when she got the nomination for attorney general because I didn't want her policies applied statewide. I voted against her in the primary but of course I held my nose and voted for her over the R in the general.
  • I don't recall who I voted for in the 2016 primary for Senate but it wasn't her, or blue dog Sanchez. I think I barely tilted toward Sanchez in the general but I honestly can't remember. I was so disappointed in those choices that I didn't really give a shit. I thought we could do better in California than two conserva-dems, especially with the top-2 primary system.
  • Never even considered voting for that cop in a presidential primary.
  • Didn't like that she was the bottom of the ticket in 2020 especially considering Biden's age, but the alternative was clear.
  • Of course, due to the alternative I voted for her in 2024 but without one iota of enthusiasm. I think I may have been more enthused to vote for John fucking Kerry, but that was a long time ago, it's hard to remember my feelings for a block of wood.

A small silver lining to her losing is I'll never have to hold my nose and vote for her ever again.

She lost because she just sucks. Whether an individual's reason for thinking she sucks and not being excited about her was based on misogyny, racism, her record of public service, her policy goals, or her personality doesn't matter. I didn't know anybody excited to vote for her. I knew some people excited to vote for a WOC, but not her as a person. A little enthusiasm was what was needed to turn the tide in the three states that mattered this time.

As soon as Biden dropped out too late for an actual primary, we already lost.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

LMAO drop the act, you and all Dems know that if they run her again you WILL VOTE for her, no matter what

Until the Dem party tells you to vote someone else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I would vote for even your overused waifu themed cumsock over any MAGA candidate, so yes. Yes I would.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago

Billionaires chose Trump, so Trump won. That's how US politics works

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

She tried to dance to the middle when Trump had a stranglehold on his cult of voters. Really stupid.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

The middle? She was cavorting with Liz Cheney!

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty far left of Harris ideologically and never really liked her or thought she was worthy of these powerful offices. I also never really expected that much from her. That being said, I was passionate about dropping Biden and supporting her campaign even at that late hour, given the immense implications of electing trump for a second term. I donated money, and rallied friends and family to get on board. Then she did that DNC speech and talked about the ‘strongest military’ yadda yadda yadda. All of that energy and enthusiasm instantly evaporated. Nothing she or her campaign did after that motivated any active support from me and I had to really fight off the urge to not vote for her. I’m entirely done with the Democratic Party as run by the current regime. Unless that party reforms, the US is absolute toast.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

I blame on dnc. They should not exist. We already have republican party if we need to vote for a party that works for billionaires. Unless AOC or Bernie, this country is doomed.

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