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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

In a world that paints only in absolutes, the fine nuances are all too often overlooked. But without it, you loose a part of the ability to accurately represent reality, like painting only with three colors that won't mix.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

I used to think America was the worst but I gained maturity when I realized America is made up by humans and that humans are the worst.

Everyone is terrible in their own horrible unique way.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I see this shit "USA kills billions opf people every second since capitalism is evil but stalin never did anything bad." every single day on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Lemmy is full of genocide supporters sadly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The main thing the USA is ALWAYS responsible for is preventing the threat of a "Good Example" by destabilizing every socialist government for almost the past decade.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, though this post is mostly about stuff like modern support of Russia.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Russia's defending itself from NATO incursion" - Tankies on Ukraine

"The Uyghur Genocide is western propaganda"

"Tiananmen Square doesn't even make sense. It's all western propaganda"

Tankie positions, everybody.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Check the [email protected] post ( https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45135755 ), that's literally what some of those people are saying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I hope that they're all highly upvoted is just Hexbear brigading.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Ew. That thread is infested with hexbear tankies. Do they have nothing better to do than brigade. I suppose they are opposed to working real jobs and contributing to the "capitalist system".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not if see it, they aren’t.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Just want to mention, most of the removals and votes aren't federating to lemm.ee for some reason: https://lemm.ee/post/64973610

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

We're Babylon this rhyme around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

My late father would say...

"You can tell how evil a country is by how many laws it has."

And honestly, I don't think he was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Westoid tankie's entire world depends on alternative facts... It seems every narrative works like this though, their's is just extra offensive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ those hashtags

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, tumblr's tags are usually used to put a hidden message/note into the post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So I don't think I'm a tankie. I'm certainly a socialist, but I'm not an authoritarian. I feel this post though. Like, I've lived and breathed the evil of the American empire. I grew up across various us military bases and eventually got a related job and security clearance. I've seen it with my own eyes, and I even got some of the blood on my hands while I still thought it was heroic.

The evil of other nations though? I've heard and read about it, but I've barely actually seen any of it. What I have seen is an absolute unending torrent of propaganda being firehosed at me and everybody I've ever known for my entire life by the American government. I feel like I find out at least once a month that some deeply held belief I have about a different part of the world is a fabrication of my own government meant to keep me worshipping at the altar of American exceptionalism, or some bit of racism that never got stamped out of military culture.

I'm old enough to understand that the world is a gray place, and enemies of America aren't good by default. I certainly understand questioning if any of them are as bad as I learned growing up though

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The evil of other nations though? I've heard and read about it, but I've barely actually seen any of it. What I have seen is an absolute unending torrent of propaganda being firehosed at me and everybody I've ever known for my entire life by the American government.

Really? Like, putin's invasion of ukraine? Or the gaza genocide? Or the myanmar civil war and rohingya genocide? Or the sudan civil war? Or the tibetan oppression?

Like i get it, you hate the propaganda machine feeding you some half-truth and you don't know what to believe, but still, just because you've done some evil under the name of USA doesn't mean it's all propaganda feeding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The point of the post wasn't that the west can't be criticized. Far from. More that for Leninists, there institutions are incapable of evil. Further, that any appearance of evil isn't actually evil. It's just a response to the wests evil decadence influence poisoning the minds of the proletariat. In ways only a massive tank can undo.

Tiananmen Square being a specific example. First of all it didn't happen. But if it did happen, they all abandoned their bicycles and ran off to an alley. Where they were safe as the tanks went through. No one was killed, everyone had fudge. But then again maybe it did happen the way you say, but it was only because the decadent West poisoned their minds. This is literally the batshit stuff leninists have to twist themselves into pretzels over to justify themselves.

If you assert that they aren't perfect, that their systems are as flawed as the ones they want to overthrow. Skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!