Funny how people are defending it when it's not a thing in Canada and supermarkets are still functional
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Yeah American employer’s obsession with drug testing is weird. I’ve never even heard of an instance of a job drug testing here in Canada. Not in retail, not in a professional office position, nowhere.
I'm pretty sure it's downstream from the war on drugs, which was motivated largely by racism (and anti left wing sentiment, to some extent)
Some employers have even begun testing for nicotine. They don't want anyone on staff who smokes because smokers take breaks.
Seriously? That’s absurd wow
Yeah it's largely in the hospital world. It's a bad look for healthcare or some bullshit they say. I used to work in that world.
"We're going to start testing for piss, because we hear people take breaks for that too."
From what I'm finding it's legal in Canada but you need a valid reason to do it
Ah yeah and that totally makes sense. Doing it for everything is just crazy though. Seems like a waste of time for everyone involved
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Part of the reason has to do with insurance companies. The company gets a discount if they can prove there's a "drug free" workplace. It's not like it matters to the employees who likely don't receive insurance benefits because they're in an "uNskILleD jOb."
What’s the comments condoning this are missing is that a lot of these places are talking about drug use outside of work.
It ain’t your damn business if I need to get stoned after work to deal with the stresses of life.
Thank god I’m a software developer now where the boss treats us like people that matter and not just numbers. He regularly tells us that we come first the work is secondary. He’s also great with clients and as a result we get insane amounts of repeat business and recommendations.
Software also has the wonderful balance of leverage.
"Do you do drugs? We have to test and fire you if you are."
"Do you want the release ready next week?"
"...."
"I'll see you on standup."
Because employment is about power dynamics more than doing a job.
You get it, last week we sacrificed 10 minutes of our break...not a single positive thing was said, we got shit on for taking the remaining 5 minutes.
Pay me a decent wage if you want to treat me like garbage, i already hate being there when people are acting normal.
That's a crime. You are entitled to a 15 minute break. If they shorten or remove that it is a federal crime. Next time that happens then document it and refuse to work. If they fire you, that's an easy lawsuit.
You are not entitled to any length of break under federal law. (Usa, obv, other countries different) However, you are entitled to the benefits that were listed when you employed, which mostly likely includes the 10 minute break. So it's still wage theft. For 20 minutes, it's probably better to try just documenting it and passing it over to the fed rather than suing.
It's also to deny worker's comp. Have no drug policies and blame workers who fuck up even when it's the companies fault for creating the conditions for it to happen, just because they took weed a bit
I mean there is a point I wouldn't trust myself to be high around $800 of cookies
Oh man.... what if I worked at Taco Bell....
"One for me, one for you..."
Guilty until proven innocent. In your cases, by having to submit bodily fluids to prove it. Us outside the US are baffled by this.
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Worked at one when I was young... Gonna have to admit that our best shelf facer (bring items to front of shelf and make pretty) was pretty much high as a kite on cocaine his entire shift
To keep the workers in line. If you believe that nobody's valuable enough for the company to let a transgression so minor slide, then are you going to organize a union? Let a shoplifter go? Call in sick without being on death's door?
Your silence only incriminates you!
Wal-Mart said they drug tested, but then they never actually did. You think the zoning and FIFO was immaculate because I was sober? lmao
I went to McDonalds the other day for a rare treat. And because it was a rare treat I was disappointed beyond measure. The shred of loyalty I had left is gone until they rehire the stoners that gave me extra food.
Answer: Because the employees need to be more miserable than the people shopping there.
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Cash handling
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Forklifts
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Parking lots
But those are only reasons you shouldn’t be high during working hours.
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All of those jobs exist outside of the US and manage just fine without drug testing
The authoritarians on the right don't care that ever other country is doing it wrong.
'merica!
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- Walk in freezers
- Big high power electrical doors/lifts/machines
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And on the other end of the fucked up shit spectrum, I had a boss at a pizza delivery place that refused to let me clock in if my "eyes weren't red enough."
He never came out and told me to go get high, he indirectly just told me to go get high. I was his best delivery driver when I had my weed.
And there I am on my bike being told by the police to be careful because I could traumatize a car driver that hits me.
Great to confirm that you can be fucking high while driving a lethal multi ton vehicle and if a cyclist of a pedestrian gets hit, it's gonna be an "accident" from the driver, and the cyclist or pedestrian's fault anyway, for not wearing a helmet, or not being visible enough.
I never said anything about the legality of the situation. It was illegal AF, but I never got into any accidents, so it was a non issue.
"yeah I drove home drunk, but, you know I've never hit anyone so it's fine"
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