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I think the widespread use of chat clients and services like slack in large companies has changed this norm.
There was a time where it would be unprofessional, but now its a solution to the communication flaw inherent in written messages. Conveying emotion.
My spouse works fairly high up at one of the evil tech giants and their team was very excited to be working with some dude who had written a computer language (I donβt remember the details) and someone had written him this very professional document requesting he read it and assess it, his only response to this very carefully prepared document was a βππ»β and literally nothing else lol, everyone was low key offended but no one said anything to him because they all basically considered him a celebrity
I work for a MSP, and we have a chat for "account managers", a non technical position where they interact with the clients upper management, and tell them stuff we as techs shouldn't (hard no's, complaints, large project recommendations etc).
That chat is full of gifs, jokes, emoticons and some memes. I feel like the weird one not feeling comfortable doing that there. I do all that stuff too, but usually in smaller more private chats.
Very well said.
Gonna use this argument anytime a boomer breaths.
Ill message my boss and get a emoticon response sometimes, usually for simple yes or okay responses, and they'll send out meme for some regular announcements like timesheets or stuff
Weird β¦ I was told the exact same thing by my boss.
So I stopped using emojis, and then she told me that my messages were βpassive-aggressiveβ or βrudeβ
And I told her thatβs why people use emojis, to add the nuance that is missing because we arenβt communicating face-to-face π€·ββοΈ
I worked with someone once who would write the most condescending chat messages and finish them off with a smiley face. I think he truly didn't understand that the smiley made it worse. Regardless of the lack of social awareness, his superiority complex was annoying.
It sounds like you just don't understand how brilliant you coworker was. You should probably look into effective communication methods and/or go back to school. Maybe if you weren't so closed minded, you could learn something. π
/s in case it wasn't obvious
Without the smiley face I'm annoyed enough... with it just gives me an image I want to punch π«
Emoji are fine, but I hate when people follow every other word with one. You know the type: every βI seeβ is followed by π, they canβt mention a house without π , and God help you if they start talking about their pet, because thereβs more pictures of animals, hearts, and stars than words.
"I've never been promoted for my professionalism, but I've been promoted countless times for my skill. If you'd rather lose out on the best employee you may ever have because of a smiley face, I'm not sure this environment would be a good fit for me anyway."
Am I the only one who sends GIFs in work chats?
I mean I won't send one to a VP but I can send them to peers, supervisors, managers, department heads. No issues.
Hell people throw down happy Monday memes around.
GIFs are just about the best thing about moving from Skype to Teams for work. I think if they took them from us there'd be an uproar tbh.
Microsoft bought giphy I think so they know what's up. That's why they got a GIF button now.
I worked at a mid sized company, we used slack and used gifs and memes and had thousands of custom emojis uploaded.
Got purchased by a mega Corp, now use Teams, we've been slowly corrupting them with smileys, memes, gifs, etc. It's been good.
Same thing happened to us but we've completed the corruption already.
Important meetings are meme/gif free but daily meetings and team chats are fully corrupted. It's more of a work culture thing. Less stuffy.
Emojis are fine, but I still prefer emoticons - I feel like they have more flair ^ _ ^
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All clear, management have gone on another away day!
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I agree, but there is just too many who are late t9 the oarty and just wouldn get it.
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EDIT: I wonder why the backslash doesn't display
Because the backslash is an escape character:
Β―\_(γ)_/Β― -> Β―_(γ)_/Β―Β―\\_(γ)_/Β― -> Β―\(γ)/Β―Β―\\\_(γ)_/Β― -> Β―\_(γ)_/Β―Explanation:
Depending on the venue, I end up viewing emotions as a passive indicator of "Internet tenure". Oβ _β o Conveys that someone has been on the Internet longer than π€¨ usage. (In some cases)
This is why I hate people. You never know when you'll meet one of these dumb dumbs that think life is a competition to seem the most adult. They're the idiots that need to have prefaces saying shit like "the video game industry is actually bigger than the music and movie industry combined" when reading financial times. Get stuffed.
I disabled to use of emojis when I set up our companies internal wiki for SOP thinking that wasn't appropriate for technical documentation, but my boss asked me to turn them back on because he wanted to use them. I begrudgingly obliged.
Turns out he didn't want to use smileies, just the icons for quickly identifying bullet points like ββΌοΈβ βor even ππ¨οΈ
A decade ago, I was annoyed by emojis. Hate that shit.
But then some PM decorated all the knowledge base page titles in our Confluence to have a icon in the front to visually group the goal.
And that's when I learned how valuable a good emoji can be.
As a fellow former hater and likely fellow autist (it is 196 after all), emojis are freaking great. Helps to convey emotions and feelings in regular text and helps to clarify things in more formal texts.
They're friendlier, and even if you hate them, they make intent a lot clearer over text.
Being courteous and clear in your communications is professional. Being tacit and sententious is not.
sententious
sententious /sΔn-tΔnβ²shΙs/ adjective
Learned a new word, thanks!
Haha thanks for commenting with the definition. I considered doing that myself, since I too only just recently learned the word, but somehow it feels kind of condescending to do it myself.
New word for me too. Maybe link the word to the definition? I've been reading a lot more lately and feel like my grammar and vocabulary has improved.
lol yeah, would've been weird if you did it, and I wanted to save some folks the time. I wonder if it would still be condescending if you just linked a word to a page with its definition?
My workplace is somewhat stuffy but I've still never seen anyone take issue with a smiley or similar emoji in an email. Tone is hard to assess over text, a simple :) goes a long way sometimes.
I'm afraid I have to give you your notice, as your position is no longer a priority for the company π’
Well thanks for wasting the last 3 years of my career, you feckless ghouls!!! πβ€οΈ
Dear Karen,
you are the dumbest bitch Iβve ever had to work with and I hope you die a gruesome death.
:)
As per my last message ππ
I understand your concerns but βοΈπ΄
Don't worry, that's a valid question π«΅π
There's a woman I haven't met in person but I have to send emails to about once a month to ask for something only her group can do
One time I did something like "could you help us get xxx report from your system by CoB? π " and she replied that emojis could have a hidden meaning and are not professional and I should not use them in emails
Next time after she helped me I went to the greetings system we use and send her a public card for gratitute or team work with some gif of cute cats hugging. I think everyone had a similar experience with her because a lot of people liked the post and then they started doing the same
The worst part is that we have the option to give away points in the system that can be redeemed for gift cards but I've never seen anyone give her points, only cute gifs
dude it's not a eulogy. how are people still bitching about smiley faces especially in conversations like this. fucking inhuman corporate robot piece of π©
we made smiley faces with keyboard characters in the before times. nobody cared. it was no big deal. wink smile frown w/e. emojis ruined it. Unprofessional like when graphic artist used 'love you like a sister' font on a college website. cartoons are not serious. business is serious business and takes itself seriously. any MBA would agree. does it increase growth or profit? lose it. graphic clowns stick to ads for the click-bait spam that somehow makes money. :-)
π that guy and his supposed professionalism
In case you didn't know, correcting someone's syntax is considered unprofessional. ππ
I have a limit I can tolerate, one emoji every other sentence.
I don't use them in emails myself, but react emojis to internal work messages are fairly commonplace. A π next to a message is often just a good way to know someone has confirmed reading something rather than needing to write "okay" which is ambiguous (what are you saying okay to?) and takes up space.
But I use a different range of emojis with different people when I do use them, to taste. With colleagues it's one of πππ ππ―β€οΈππ, with friends it's probably one of π€£π€©ππ€ππ§ππ€―π₯΄ππππ¨ or π.
There was a legal case in Eastern Canada a short while ago that ruled "π" is legally binding as an affirmative in terms of a verbal contract.
"Do you agree to XYZ?"
"π"
I mean, does anyone really consider this not an affirmation? You should only use it as a reply to statements, e.g. "I will arrive a couple minutes later today."
I had someone say I used too many exclamation points in a specific email and it wasn't professional. It was 2 or 3, which admittedly was high for me, but seemed warranted and mirrored the way the client was writing.