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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

6 votes is an incredible margin. Just shows that every vote matters.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"My vote doesn't matter" people, where you at?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They had no one to represent Thier views. So their votes would not matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"nobody is a carbon copy of me and I won't vote until that happens"

el oh el

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

While that is a huge issue on the left.

It is hard ATM to see a left of centre party that would unify even the more casual left. Labours current stance is closer to right for most as the overton window is so far right now compared to the past.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I hope this isn't a sign of things to come

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think it’s uncertain for now. A majority of 6 votes is still a win but it’s also an incredibly unconfident win.

Runcorn is supposed to be the kind of place Reform keep being tipped to sweep but even in a byelection they’ve only managed a win by a hair’s breadth.

Reform seem to have a lot more work to do to win over voters to reliably take seats at a general election.

Of course, there’s still 4+ plus years for Labour to lose more voters also.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

4 years for Labour to lose more voters, but hopefully four years for Reform to show off their incompetence and ruin any election chances, with any luck.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

It feels like both are waiting, or even relying on, for the other to implode.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I don't think their incompetence puts people off. As long as they keep making a noise about immigration, people are going to vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

As long as they keep making noises about immigration they're going to continue to split the right-wing vote and draw Tories further to the right.

What'll end up happening is either they will do something mind-numbingly stupid which gets even their own supporters mad at them or they'll just become the nasty party 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Historically that's not how that works.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Reform have a big problem and that problem is that all of the undecided voters see them as basically extremists (to a greater or lesser extent), and Farage knows this which is why he is trying to distance himself from the likes Tommy Robson. The problem is that the party in general don't seem to be behind that idea. They really like being unapologetically right-wing fanatics, especially Anderson who has probably worked out that if he fails here he's finished in politics, and they really don't care about anything else, even if it limits the growth of the party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We can't help but follow Americans culturally. To the bottom we go my friend :D

[–] jaemo 0 points 3 days ago

You just saw us repudiate Trump in Canada. Did you need an illustrated pamphlet or other visual aides or something? How was this a challenge?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Canada's recent election also had a handful of ridings won by just a handful of people. I hope everyone that can does vote.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bet there were more than seven votes for the Greens and Lib Dems combined.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bet there was more than 7 people who'd claim to be labour supporters who just stayed home.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

100%. Point is that if Labour had appealed to their left flank, they'd have held the seat!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's true. I think the way a lot of people (myself included) read your original comment was that it was blaming those 7 people for voting wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Objectively, both things are true! But I tend to think Labour is the one with the power and so they're the ones who should be changing, not the relatively powerless seven voters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I don't think you can say someone voted wrong if they voted for what they believe in. As you say it lies with the parties to win people over (and potentially to reform voting systems so that people can vote for that they want rather than being forced to vote against what they don't want)