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this ain't happy trigger, this is excited trigger, can't wait to kill someone trigger.
Fuck the police.
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Fourth world country
I think we may have invented 7th world, as in the circles of hell.
I show more respect when killing players in Fortnite. This is disgusting.
An early portion indicates that, at the time Randall allegedly ran the flashing stop sign, Iversen was likely too far away from the intersection to see it. Iversen acknowledged as much in his interview with the Texas Rangers, saying he couldn’t see the full intersection but knew it well enough to deduce that Randall’s vehicle hadn’t come to a stop.
So not only did he shoot an unarmed man who posed no threat whatsoever, but it wasn't even a legal traffic stop in the first place. No wonder he didn't want the footage released.
We need to get beyond traffic stops for the most part. Gather the evidence (video, personal log, eye witness accounts) and then mail someone their ticket.
But then, who would abuse their power?
So free. So brave. What a shithole country. ಠ_ಠ
Totally not a police state.
I never see more cops than when I go to Texas. It's insane
The real question is why Texans like to live like that. 🤷♂️
Paranoia created by decades of fear pushed by the US government. Anybody got threat level orange yet?
Research has shown that getting traffic stopped by police is correlated with lower likelihood to vote (arc). I think it's reasonable to infer that the heavy visibility of constant police actions against citizens has a huge chilling effect on democratic participation in Texas (and like every other red state in the south too).
education. eliminate the humanities from the curriculum (also book bans) = no empathy = racism/"i just smoked a dude"/etc. eliminate science/critical thinking = unquestioning obedience = muh paw is a preacher and says _________ are bad people, so we shoot'em
the list goes on...honorable mention: absurd "my AR15 is who i am" gun culture
State is gerrymandered to hell.
What if we just had the death for cops who were found guilty of shooting unarmed people for no reason? Like, no appeals, nothing; just straight to the firing squad upon guilty finding.
That said this was Texas.
Two days after the killing, Iversen sat for an interview with the Texas Rangers, the agency that investigates police shootings.
The WHO investigates police shootings in Texas?!
two police use-of-force experts contacted by NBC News said they saw no reason for Iversen to open fire during the encounter.
Mickie McComb, a former New Jersey state trooper, said Randall never made any movement that would suggest he was “drawing or attempting to draw a weapon” and at no point was he “charging the officer.”
“There was no threat,” added McComb, who now works as an expert witness on use-of-force cases. “He should have never used deadly force. It was completely uncalled for.”
McComb said he believes that Iversen would have faced criminal charges — and likely ended up in prison — had the incident occurred in the Northeast.
I would settle for ANY fucking accountability at this point. If an unwarranted killing by a police officer meant they could never again serve as police or any kind of security officer in the US that would be a giant leap forward.
Yeah, some people wanted to use my spitballed idea as a platform to voice their anti-death penalty sentiments (despite me clearly delineating what I was saying from that process), but all I’m really trying to get at, is that if there were SOME sort of very very serious consequences for what is essentially negligent homicide, then maybe these cops would think twice before gunning down unarmed people.
Are people even thinking for five seconds about the ideas they're upvoting?
- As we understand it today – given the mix of studies that say it reduces crime, say it increases crime, and say it does nothing at all – a claim that the death penalty deters crime isn't tenable.
- Over 4% of people who are executed are innocent. This is to say that after a trial and after often decades of appeals, they are still murdered by the state on false pretenses. So we're talking 1/20 people killed for something that ostensibly does not reduce homicides.
- "Straight to the firing squad" reduces the cost from being 4x as expensive as life, but then we take that 4% figure and turbo-charge it to some ungodly number (I wouldn't know what that is because we haven't been fucking stupid enough to try it lately). The reason the appeals are so extensive is because the false conviction rate is so high. If it's 4% after decades of appeals, imagine what it is with this stupid bullshit.
- Removing the appeals process would incentivize prosecutors even more than they already are to fabricate, misrepresent, and hide evidence and to falsely accuse. They know that this will never be found during appeals because there is no appeal.
- This kind of rhetoric normalizes ~~the death penalty~~ state-sanctioned murder, but it's a fucking awful practice that doesn't do shit. That's why so many first-world countries and even many developing countries no longer have it and why the US is such an outlier. The US should be embarrassed about its continued use of the death penalty, not clamoring for more and worse.
This is just masturbating your rage boner to fantasy land punitive justice, not a serious policy suggestion to fix a single problem with the police.
In general, I oppose the death penalty. My argument against it goes broadly along the lines that our social contract is based around the system protecting each individual (thus, it cannot kill them), and that rehabilitation should always be on the table (benefits everyone).
I definitely think that people in power that abuse their power in order to commit a crime should be far more severely punished that an ordinary person committing the same crime.
Whether the above extrapolates to the point where it is justified to execute police officers that have body cam footage of themselves executing unarmed, non-threatening civilians (there are plenty such cases) is actually a question I'm a bit torn about. There are a couple videos out there (that no one should see) which show police straight up purposefully executing civilians that are either incapacitated or otherwise neutralized (lying face-down, spread eagle, unarmed). Should these warrant execution of the officer involved? I haven't concluded for myself what I think yet.
Cops are armed, terrified, and don’t need to consider literally any consequences. Gotta love it.
Probably one of the few situations I wpuld actually support the death penalty.