Whether you believe your actions are from a place of honest discussions or not does not change the fact that your actions on this account portray a rage baiter who particularly finds joy in attacking vegans. Your stance on consumer activism is a very weak reason to specifically target vegans considering that consumer activism is just a consequence of going vegan. At the heart of veganism is the understanding that non-human animals deserve compassion and rights, not consuming them would be part of it wether you live in a capitalistic society (in which case you could say that in a sense you are participating in consumer activism) or a communist society (where consumer activism is not really a thing)

Your cry for help here shows your bias. It paints a picture of a person who has a target demographic that they enjoy harassing.

@[email protected] I don't know your policy, I don't know you, but is this really the kind of user you want to entertain? Look at his recent comments. This is not honest discussion.

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I also noticed that he is the mod of c/vegan... I don't know what the policy and goal of your instance is but I doubt that the entire instance is satirical/trolling. The fact that he is modding a community which he is actively fighting against and is ideologically opposed to is ridiculous. It makes the community dead on arrival and it once again shows that he is not having a good faith discussion.

Hi, I am the PTB that banned this user for 2 hours. As what was explained to you in the appeals channel, you've been trolling for months and when the person you troll gets mad, you report them for things like 'incivility.' You've done this many times to multiple users for months. That is why you were banned, not because of a specific thread and report. This was a warning to you to knock it off, as was explained to you.

It was not made known to other admins that you had contacted db0 in advance of making your account that you were using your account just to do things like this. It makes a lot more sense now why there was this leeway. I thought trolling other users was against the rules, but it seems the rules are muddy about it. We have often been warning people through 1 day bans to knock things off. So your timeout seemed appropriate.

It's a big of a weird case innit? I think that incivility should be allowed, but I also see that a pattern of behaviour where someone goads people to get upset in order to report them for incivility is manipulative and against anarchist ethos. You got to be able to take what you're dishing out. When I answered your email I didn't anticipate that you would be crying to the mods when you got people heated, yanno?

I don't think any of us admins would mind you having strong opinions on some matters and holding your ground, even if it would upset others, but this constant pattern of trying to manipulate situations to get people sanction by hierarchical power (mods) I feel is approaching /crossing an ethical line.

I believe this pattern behaviour is what the mod is objecting to, not your light trolling and strong opinions.

You gave zero information to go off of but judging from what I saw from the comments, YDI.

You said about the other person:

You really need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you’re trying so hard to lie about this.

But you were dead wrong about the point being discussed, you kept insisting that their evidence was outdated when they were referring evidence beyond the paper you were talking about. If anything, the other person was remarkably patient with you, and if you were decent you'd own up to having egg on your face and apologize to them. Instead, you reported them for correctly calling out your BS, and are now here whining about a two hour ban.

Personally, I find your whole thing of staying within the letter of "civility" while going "I'm not touching you" and talking down to everyone incredibly annoying, worse than if you just told people to go fuck themselves. If it were up to me I'd issue a permaban, but I don't think we have an abbreviation here for "the mods didn't go far enough."

Insufficient information. The ban mentions report abuse. Did you report your interlocutor? If so, how many times, and for what.

I'm tending towards YDI because I've witnessed some of the borderline bad-faith arguments you've made in the past, but this specific instance perhaps seemed a bit mild for a ban just from the conversation alone, so I'll reserve judgement for now.

YDI: you sound like a whiny little pain in the ass who adds little value to any conversation they're a part of. this post is emblematic of this fact.

anarchy for me but not for thee

ignorant jokes aside, i think i might be interested in your consumer opinion. maybe ill find the referred read

Eh, the part about your pre-join discussion is irrelevant as any given community may well have more restrictive standards than the instance, and it's a benefit that admins not intervene in cases that aren't egregious and/or in violation of instance policies.

That being said, I think you got it right, a 2 hour ban is so borderline as anything at all, that it doesn't merit much of anything here. It was definitely unnecessary, but it's so minor that calling it power tripping seems dubious.

Has the mod in question said anything about the temp ban beyond what's shown? That's just personal curiosity more than anything relevant, tbh.

My take? If the action of a single mod is "chilling" your use of the rest of the instance, that's a you thing entirely.

Yeah, the action was unnecessary, but it was also effectively meaningless, so it's one of those things you just shrug off and move on while blocking the community.

Edit: leaving this up for context with the rest of the thread, but I missed a very important fact, that this was an admin action, not a mod action on a community. Ignore the fuck out of this drivel, please.

God I love this petty bullshit, Lemmy is so cool lol. It's two hours mate, go for a walk

Coming back to this thread, I do think some of your comments were inflammatory. If you were to receive a ban, it should have been for trying to bring fights in the comments (but even that is ambiguous at best). I agree that the ban for a comment was too much. An admin shouldn't be conflating one such action with overall behaviour. As for "repeated bad-faith behaviour", it is not so far out to ban you I think. People should be responsible for their own actions.

Regarding the admin in question making the statement that your prior conversation with db0 "wasn't with them" - fuck that noise. That attempt at rationalization alone is enough for me to call their action an abuse of power. I was in agreement with their thought process up until that statement, but using that as a justification reads as "I have authority and what I say goes." More than one admin on this instance has served as an illustration of the corrupting nature of authority.

That being said, you come off as the type of person who has far too often avoided, by virtue of hiding behind a screen, being punched in the in the fucking mouth for your cowardly behavior. If you know you're an abrasive asshole, don't be a craven little shit on top of it. Starting static and then hiding behind a hierarchy when you get your little feelings hurt in return is some real bridge-dwelling bullshit. You deserve the action that was taken, regardless of the piss poor "clarification" given by the admin in question. If that little wrist slap, which is far less than you ask for in consideration of the way you engage with others, is enough to make you tuck your tail and scurry off to find a new viaduct to settle under, good fucking riddance.