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Somebody should really do something (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't think conservatives give a shit about "violence in the world". Conservatives are the people suggesting we nuke the Middle East as a solution to conflicts there, for example.

EDIT: I mean IRL, conservatives I know in person are the people I know saying shit like that - they're usually hawkish, pro-war, apologists for American imperialism and colonial genocide, etc. - I know there are probably more nuanced takes from intellectuals, talking heads, etc. but I tend to think in general conservatives and the right are not concerned with ending violence but usually the exact opposite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

"Are we the baddies?" Turns on Fox "No."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe if lefties were like this we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now

Google “the paradox of tolerance” if you haven’t already heard of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

❌ Violence is never the answer
✔️ Violence is never the first answer

[+] anindefinitearticle -26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Liberals will throw people acting a fool out without a moment's hesitation, hell they'll throw themselves out for disgracing their peers.

Remember Al Franken who stepped out of Congress because of a picture of a crass joke vs the current 'grab em by' prez on tape who all but made it a slogan to promote himself as being a big macho dude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Al Franken is accused of more than just posing for a crass joke picture:

In the days that followed, seven additional women came forward with allegations of inappropriate behavior during photo ops. Lindsay Menz accused Franken of touching her clothed "upper" buttocks while they posed for a photo at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Two anonymous women made similar complaints related to events during political events. Franken apologized, saying, "I've met tens of thousands of people and taken thousands of photographs, often in crowded and chaotic situations. I'm a warm person; I hug people. I've learned from recent stories that in some of those encounters, I crossed a line for some women—and I know that any number is too many." Another anonymous woman said that after she was a guest on Franken's radio show in 2006, Franken leaned in toward her face during a handshake and gave her "a wet, open-mouthed kiss" on the cheek when she turned her face aside. The same day, Stephanie Kemplin, an army veteran, told CNN that Franken held the side of her breast for 5 to 10 seconds "and never moved his hand" while posing for a photograph with her during a 2003 USO tour in Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Franken#Sexual_misconduct_allegations

[+] anindefinitearticle -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I hadn't made any implication that he shouldn't be challenged, unlike some he took a largely proactive route to apologize and resign without a big fuss so there wasn't much need to push or challenge.

The overarching premise is that while conservatives obstruct and defend their behavior as 'no big deal' liberals are much more likely to say go ahead and put them on trial if their own fuck up. Consider the charges for the last 3 presidents impeached, there are 2 Republicans acting in a outright criminal fashion to use their office for personal gain, and one Democrat who got a BJ. The type and scale of crimes against the public is pretty heavily weighted in one direction.

The big challenge with a leftist/liberal alliance to work against the would-be dictators come at least in part to the method and level of moral compliance demanded. To take some from the other comment I saw, Al was accused by several women of various things, probably the most egregious mentioned as having his hand on the side of someone's breast during a photo. There are far too many hard line leftists who would have someone blacklisted as no better than a maga supporter for that, or at least their online personas would, for something that could have legitimately been an inadvertent error and putting it in the same basket as the current admin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That does not sound like any liberal behavior that I am aware of. Do you have any examples that you can share? I would be interested to know what racist/sexist/xenophobic groups are claiming to be liberal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What