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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago (10 children)

it's so fucking true

Anytime they pull you into an argument, suddenly 5 more show up to try and overwhelm you. There's no way it isn't a deliberate tactic.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

I had three at once ask me why no one was defending me. I just said i didn't need anyone to brigade for me. They didn't seem to like that answer lol

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The three notifications in my inbox before this one were .mls misreading my comment.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is a tactic they learned from real life tanks. Argue with one tank, more tanks show up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Tanks are pack hunters, after all.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Plot twist. All 5 are the same guy using multiple alt accounts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think they can’t stand talking to each other unless it’s circle-jerking over how much "theory" they've read. So, they love getting a chance to scream at an outsider.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

That was Hexbear's modus operandi when they federated with other instances to "dunk" on people. Seeing as many HB users have .ml accounts to bypass defederation, it's no surprise they keep up that behaviour on .ml. I've seen numerous threads where the vote count suddenly plummets right when a bunch of tankies show up at once to yell at whoever they consider a shitlib. Which is everyone who isn't authoritarian.

[–] Klear 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The answer is not to get dragged into convesrations with idiots. We used to call it "not feeding the trolls" and it's something of a lost art.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It will actually look more like this:

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If you make them look bad they delete the thread. It's happened to me twice. I consider it a win, but it is sad that others won't see how wacky they are.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They even downvote you if you agree with them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (62 children)

serious question, is there any chance a large portion of these users are acting in bad faith and don't actually believe these things because the now threads i see, the more that seems to be the case

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are very agressive, to the point where the slightest disagreement will cause them all to collectively (no pun intended) hound your comment.
Then they complain about leftist infighting.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

This was literally my onboarding experience with a .ml account. I dunked on some power users out of the gate (by pointing out they clearly had not read the essay they linked) and was put on a short leash from then on. To the point where I'd catch new bans for posting anything even remotely political.

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[–] ZombiFrancis 40 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (37 children)
[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Originally, it meant people who supported the soviet union's use of tanks to crush uprisings.
Now its used to describe people who support Authoritatian Communist regimes, like the ussr, north korea or china.
On lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml there is a high amount of them.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Somehow they even support modern russia which is as far from communism as it's possible to be without being US

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Their reasoning is that its anti-us imperialism, despite russia being pretty imperialistic itself.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah, the classic "only western countries can be imperialist"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Don't forget that only US Capitalism is the root of moneys evils

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the other vein of pro-russian tankies i've seen is that it's impossible for a once communist country to backslide into fascis. how they square that and russia's claim that they must destroy Ukraine, a country that was once not just communist, but anarcho-communist, in order to stop their backslide into fascism, i have no idea. perhaps if a person is actually familiar with history and not just a single pro-hegemonic propaganda, they wouldn't be tankies.

i've been developing a theory, more of a hypothesis, really, that tankies, hoteps, white feminists, etc have figured out a part of the puzzle of oppression, and in their anger at waking up to that aspect of their reality, reject all other discourse surrounding the system of oppression that doesn't mesh with their experienced oppression. this, in many ways, is the root of leftist infighting. everyone sees everyone else's fight for liberation as a distraction from their own fight for liberation. the trick is, none of them are. they are simply different expressions of how the ruling class controls us.

when a tankie says shit like "the trans issue is a distraction" the are sparking leftist infighting, charitably unknowingly. our trans brothers, sisters, and thembers are our allies in this, and are generally speaking (not universally of course, i don't want to give the impression anyone is a homogenous group) left as hell. we need them to help us in our fight because they are experienced, battle hardened, and see things the rest of us don't see because they are tuned in.

the thing is that… yes. the culture wars are distractions. but that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight in them. that's like saying the best response to being bullied in school is to take your beating and tell no one because you're focused on a bigger issue. that's a great way to get your legs broke. the answer is to push back against the culture wars and say why we push back, and say that our enemy combatants are distracted from the real war. that they are acting as class traitors from a deep system of manipulation.

tankies don't realize it, or maybe they do, but they're conservatives. they seek to maintain a hegemony that oppresses us, the working classes, that has been shown not to work. authoritarian communism is still authoritarianism, and also expresses somewhere between most and all of the features of ur-fascism. it will never save us from our oppression. they also tell on themselves when they say "read theory" and all the books they reference were published before WWII. the world has moved on. we have learned more about our oppressors. they're leaving out a century of theory when they say to read theory. they are practitioners of the religion of Marxist-Leninism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

A lot of people don't realize they are being manipulated to fight each other instead of dealing with the people who are actually causing the problems, the ones pulling the strings and syphoning off all the wealth for themselves and their friends.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I really haven't seen that? A while ago I looked into HexBear's opinion on it and it wasn't good.

Check out this thread, there really isn’t any Putin worship in these spaces.

https://hexbear.net/post/148426?scrollToComments=false

In this one some of the top comments are hoping Putin gets shot in the face. https://hexbear.net/post/3270551

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What people tend not to realize is they don't support Russia because they think it's still communist, but because of a combination of campism, accelerationism, and revolutionary defeatism. If you want to argue with someone in good faith you should try to understand their position first, otherwise they will just see you as a reactionary and dismiss what you say. I still occasionally get my comments removed from .ml but I've been able to get through to people somewhat by leading with an actual understanding of where they're coming from.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The authoritarian part waxes and wanes, there's a few anarchists in their ranks who have no real solution after "tear it all apart".

What then, boys?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

"Tear it all apart" is only aimed at Western democracies. The then is that the authoritarian "communist" countries invade and subjugate you.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Nice rainbow

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Maybe they were all commenting on your spelling of "criticising"

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (39 children)

Criticizing Marxists on a community that is federated with the largest Marxist-aligned instances will indeed result in a struggle session.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Are anti-genocide "tankies" really the biggest threat to democracy right now?

Fascists and Nazis are in the white house destroying the US. They are also on the verge of taking over and destroying Europe.

Everyone to the left of fascism needs to unite together to stop the neo-Nazis before it is too late. If the Nazis are allowed to start ww3 then nukes will end us all.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

It's really cool zooming in and out of the rainbow on your phone. You can't tell the zoom is also happening. In the vertical direction, only horizontal, so it's an odd effect I haven't seen before.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

i mean, you guys are constantly making entire threads about how you hate either our moderation rules, or our opinions...

[–] ZombiFrancis 16 points 1 week ago

Virtually every ban and removed comment found in the mod log from an .ml community gets a dedicated thread these days.

It has everything to do with how demanding to see the manager/admin/dev doesn't auto-bypass moderation policies. Works on centralized social media where the owners and their employees get flummoxed over potential ad revenue.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Sorry but this is incorrect. They get deleted before they could ever get that many comments!

Haha .ml sucks.

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