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Using sexism for engagement (sopuli.xyz)
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[–] [email protected] 154 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This is a prime example of why patriarchy is hurting men too, because what this guy is saying boils down to:

  • We can make them work at any hour of the day because who cares if these guys have any life outside work?
  • We don't have to do any work management, we just call those guys
  • We can send them wherever, whenever
  • We can create a toxic work environment and it's okay to treat guys like shit
  • And those guys don't even complain because they need this job so bad
    Isn't it great?

The statement about "workplace laws" is so telling: Yeah, who cares about treating men with respect and dignity!?
It's not just about discriminating against women, it's also about mistreating men. That's what patriarchy is at its core: Pit men and women against each other and then reap the benefits. It's a "divide and conquer strategy".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Exactly my impression. And my response? Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Also practices like that reinforce the gendered division of labour. As men get jobs, women are usually left to pick up the slack of care responsibilities. This leaves them financially dependent on those men. So both men and women suffer, but the system leaves women with less agency than men.

(Also nonbinary, queer, and third gender people are treated even worse)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

To address his points:

  1. How are women any different in this situation?

  2. How are women any different in this situation?

  3. Why do you feel you can treat men harsher than women?

  4. How are women any different in this situation?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Sorry, but I'm not available 24/7. Far from it. In fact, leave me alone.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago

So I heard a bunch of sexist shit (about men and women simultaneously which is very impressive) that aligns perfectly with my biases, but I wasn't aware it's ok to say out loud? Chat is this real?

[–] [email protected] 109 points 3 days ago

Men are available 24/7

I‘d like you to meet Europeans some time.

[–] Banana 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You mean men are easier to exploit."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

This. IF these generalizations are actually true it still doesn't mean what he thinks it means. I also find the bit about "being strict" particularly gross. If it's valid workspace criticism, then there's no laws protecting women from it. So he clearly means something more like "I want to yell and insult and be a little dictator but women might report a hostile work environment."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

My friend said something vaguely sexist, I asked him about it and he detailed his extreme sexism. I couldn't find faults in his sexism.

iS tHiS jUsT aN oLd WaY oF tHiNkInG?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 12 points 2 days ago

I'm a man and none of that applies to me differently than it would my wife. In fact, she did contract work at crazy hours one year and we made it work.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's ragebait, a very specific form of engagement

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Not necessarily. You've never met someone with backwards, toxic views like this?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Ugh, LinkedIn bros are the worst.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What would you have to say to him that he would find sexist?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"All men should die." Being said to him by a woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

"Men are not nice to women sometimes" would also do

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They can travel easily for work trips and meetings.

So can women in countries where personal transport is available and being raped isn’t as likely.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The fact that the standard reasoning that leads to workplace discrimination against women caught him off guard says a lot. Ok his friend didn't call women too hysteric to work but still the other stuff should sound familiar too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

GOOD point. They often have the vapors.

[–] Cheradenine 6 points 2 days ago

It can be so much worse if they have Wandering Womb

In the middle of the flanks of women lies the womb, a female viscus, closely resembling an animal; for it is moved of itself hither and thither in the flanks, also upwards in a direct line to below the cartilage of the thorax, and also obliquely to the right or to the left, either to the liver or the spleen, and it likewise is subject to prolapsus downwards, and in a word, it is altogether erratic

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

"I do declare!"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hashtag leadership! Hashtag equality!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

#workplacediversity was my favorite.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What exactly does engagement achieve on LinkedIn?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If someone says networking I'm gonna throw up. These are not the people I want in my network.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Pssst I'm on your WiFi👻

[–] zarkanian 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I don't see how this post would be good for networking. This is the not the kind of person you want to work with.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I use LinkedIn fire the sole purpose of promoting my research and the FOSS projects I work on, with the hope that if the right people see it, it can help what I do make a positive impact.

In that case, high engagement means more people see my stuff, which means a higher likelihood of the right people seeing it.

However, I'm sharing stuff that I actually hope is useful to someone out there. For people just circlejerking it's just for the ego boost.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm available between 9am and 5pm, Monday to Friday, and not a second more, unless you're paying me double time. If you call me outside of work hours, I'll ignore you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

In general I agree with this sentiment, but let's be honest and remember that a lot of jobs are of the type "you are responsible for X, regardless of what time of day it is". In a reasonable place, that of course comes with the benefit that you can take time off whenever you want as long as X is handled, but I actually prefer the freedom/responsibility trade off of needing to handle shit in the weekends when required, but also being able to not come in to work when I know stuff is running as it should.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Would love to hear your thoughts!

Pretty sure you wouldn't love the avalanche of slurs mixed with the citations from socio-economic studies and the ethical arguments. It's quite ugly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Let's play translate the job title.

"I bought a cheap DSLR and have a spare room I've put on Air BnB but nobody has stayed in it yet"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, men can be pseudo-slaves legally. That's why employers love them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It works for the American prison industry!