Illegal = against capital interests
this post was submitted on 25 Mar 2025
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If purchased, fuck you, mine not yours.
I have been listening to SO many audiobooks since getting Audiobookshelve ❤️
Libro.fm is cool too because you can download and just…own the files
Always comes to mind. Why buy it if you need to crack the DRM someday and become a criminal? Just pirate it in the first place.
Or just unlock protected media outside from States.
Removing DRM has always been "illegal".
However: German concentration camps were legal, while families protecting Jewish citizens from being taken to said concentration camps was strictly illegal.
What's legal is not always right (ethically and morally), and what's right is not always legal. Remember that.
I'd like to clarify that removing DRM does lie in a grey zone in many countries, including in the US due to some court rulings. In some countries the right to make a backup of your e-book might have priority over copyright law for example.
Sure, but companies who employ DRM have argued against that grey area since DRM was a thing. Something something IP/copyright/licensing/whatever bullshit... IMO: fuck you, I bought it, I own it, eat shit.
Correct... How are they going to enforce their "property" rights when I do it at home?
These corpo parasites are delulu hence why I stopped spending money on media.
Get fucked.
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Sometimes doing something illegal is anti-social behavior. Sometimes it's anti-authoritarian behavior. These are not the same thing.
It's interesting when people are put to the choice. On the one hand they could purchase a book with DRM that they don't actually own. On the other hand, they could look for alternative means by which to obtain the book. And the more the publishers f*** with you, the more you might be inclined to never give them a penny.
You can swear on the internet, your mom isn’t watching.
"Illegal"
Fuck them... Just do it.
From a legal standpoint, is it more illegal to remove DRM or to just download DRM-freed content?
Meta lawyers think the second is fine, BTW.
I've never heard of anyone getting arrested for removing DRM. DRM removal tools are actively sold online with no crackdown. However people keep getting busted here and there for piracy, and piracy sites keep getting shut down.
I think at the end of the day if the copyright holders are getting paid they don't really care, and the police cares about piracy way less than they do.
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If that's true, I'm pretty much Al Capone at this point.
Never forget it's legal to make backups.
Unless you "bypass technological measures". Which is a loophole if I've ever seen one.
I luckily live in a country where I may break copy protection if it is to move the content into a format where I can use it as I prefer
Eg I could (and did) legally break copy protection on DVDs to allow me to watch them on my Linux computer
Over here you can even make copies for personal use or sharing with a close group of friends.
I love the unintended consequences of declaring that the internet is to be treated under the same laws as radio broadcasts. Suddenly being allowed to make a recorded copy of anything as long as you yourself create the copy becomes significantly more important.
jaywalking is probably illegal too
I will never stop being confused by this law. Just crossing the street cannot possibly be illegal anywhere. I'm fully convinced the entire thing is an elaborate joke by the americans.
Like everything else here in the US, it’s borne out of racism. In the Jim Crow era, most black people couldn’t afford a car. White people driving around didn’t like those pesky walking people getting in their way, so they made it difficult to cross the street. It then gave cops a way to threaten/arrest/persecute them.
And the name is derived from an awful slur too. The history of that is really messed up.
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Fwiw, I've never put drm on anything I've published digitally, and never will.
Not that it matters, nobody buys my shit in the first place lol. But, as a matter of principle, even my crappy stories as a form of culture aren't only for the people with money.
Mind you, that do? I have no beef with. You make your own choices, and I ain't mad about it. But it just isn't something I can do.
I go out of my way to exclusively spend money with the one publisher I've found who does not put DRM in their ebooks. I spend lavishly with them because good practices need to be rewarded monetarily in capitalism or they die out.
The rest I pirate.
Doing illegal things is the new black, haven’t you heard?
Also, how exactly would they catch anyone doing this?
How can they catch people who have produced unlocked epubs? There are plenty of ways if they have your device at some future date.
I suppose the easiest predictable thing other than having your device seized when you're entering the country for example or when you get arrested for example is that back doors could be installed on Android or iPhone that look for unapproved media.
The technology is already good enough for that. It's only a question of implementation.
I'm too fucken old to read a book on a goddamn phone screen and my eco reader is too old to enshittify. Mwahahahahha i am untouchable
Sadly its not doable with Kindle and Linux anymore. I buy my ebooks since I only read indie but I will only do it from Itch or other DRM free sites.
Oh noes
Anyways
Oh no...
So do it anyway, not like they could ever know. It's not a very enforceable thing is it.
i'm glad that there is an(other) program for audible. i like this one better. it automatically converts to a file format i prefer and downloads my books immediately, which is convenient for preorders. besides that, i personally would like to not use the audible app for playback; this is just a personal preference though. i have an audiobook app that works just as well. if anything this would just be me eliminating an app from my devices than anything else.
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