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The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.

By Jeffrey Goldberg

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Even my work has better OPSEC on a random stupid meeting with nothing interesting. They review every attendee to make sure no one unexpected is in the chat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

This is a government that tries to avoid accountability like the devil the holy water.

Trump is known to have violated the Presidential Records Act of 1978 numerous times, stating statesman-ish reasons like "I don't care". There is no reason that this got any better. More likely has he outsourced communications to other platforms, too, if only to avoid the PRA.

Musk thinks that whatever he does with DOGE is not subject to the FOIA in any way.

Michael Waltz, JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, and others use Signal instead of official, secure, and archieved messaging systems. Signal deletes such chats after a certain time, leaving no records for courts, Congress, and the archives that one day will open past reasonings for historic analysis.

So, what do they have to hide that they act like drug lords?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

sometimes I wonder how many of these oopsies are coverups for informant leaks

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You actually can't make this shit up. WTF!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's absurd, it's some shit you'd see in the movies

According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket parking lot. If this Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed. At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city.

[–] Eezyville 9 points 2 days ago

I wonder if there's a Simpson's episode on this or even an Onion article.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Didn't they try to charge Hilary Clinton for using an insecure private server?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (8 children)

This would matter if Republicans and their voters gave a shit about being hypocrites. That is not a new thing. Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair while he himself was having one for instance.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Gingrich was worse. His wife at the time had cancer and he served her divorce papers while in the hospital and then left her and their child pennyless.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair...

I don't want to disagree with your main point, I just want to say that this is a misstatement of what happened with Clinton. He was being sued for sexual harassment by Paula Jones in civil court. He was impeached for lying under oath and obstruction during that investigation.

The hinky part of it is that Kenneth Starr was originally supposed to be investigating whether the Clintons had participated in fraudulent real estate dealings. When that investigation turned up nothing, he was directed to look into Clinton's testimony about his relationship with Lewinsky, which had nothing to do with the original investigation. It was a massive fishing expedition. At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky's friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky’s friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.

Depending on how much you believe David Brock - they were going to keep going until they found something. They were also happy to make up a lot of shit too - the stuff about state troopers bringing in women for Bill to sleep with, Vince Foster and the other “murders.” The entire investigation was not about justice.

Which of course doesn’t make Bill Clinton not a lecherous shitbag and sex pest. The way the world treated and treats Lewinsky is fucked up. He probably did harass Jones, if not all of the other weird mentally ill women Alex Jones types like to trot out.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t they tank her presidential bid on this? How she was unprofessional and unfit for office for this? And his Perfect Ukraine Call, his hacked emails, his every other lapse of OPSEC or security clearance issues… weren’t disqualifying? Or was it just what she had in her pants, same with Kamala.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

[This article reads like satire]

[–] Hideakikarate 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The one with Big Bird is backwards. I feel like the reporter was the only adult in the room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Much like Big Bird is aloof but more mature than anyone around him pretty often.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Trump administration is so close to making the greatest post of all time on the War Thunder forums

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Is it a coincidence that the person who wrote press release announcing Mike Waltz's nomination is called Richard Goldberg, that he worked in previous Trump's administration and is an expert on Iran/Houti? Did Waltz add Jeffrey Goldberg totally by accident or did he simply confuse the contacts?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Read the update on the Atlantic! Full texts and those on the chat are now available! So much more bullshit is in there and they are caught red handed of lying.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fascists are surprisingly bad at war.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're bad at lots of things. Stupidity is a highly transferable skill.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fascism is literally all about doing what's best for the IN Crowd, in other words Cronyism, the very opposite of Merit.

If your selection criteria for people supposed to manage anything is who is mates with whom, what's their skin color, what's their gender and what's their sexual orientation, rather than, you know, managerial qualities, it's only natural that they suck at managing things.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

Good thing they fired everyone who worked in secure communications.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Just a reminder that they chose to use Signal for a reason, and those are also reasons we normal citizens should use Signal too! At least try and talk your closest relatives into dumping WhatsApp for it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

elect fucking russian idiots , be surprised about the results

[–] akilou 44 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It geniuely concerns me that this type of stuff doesn't warrant a meeting or encrypted messaging.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The messaging was encrypted, they where using Signal. The dumb fuck just "accidentally" added the reporter to the group chat 😆

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Locks are just as effective as the people wielding the keys.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if it was deliberate. Trump will surround himself with people like him, so they must constantly be knifing each other in the back

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oooh you're right I never thought about it like they're similar to the circle Stalin had.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yep like attracts like

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[–] zalgotext 9 points 2 days ago

Well, see, the thing is that it 100% absolutely positively no-questions-about-it does warrant a meeting and government approved, Internet-disconnected communications methods.

The fact that Trump's entire fucking cabinet apparently disagrees is what concerns me.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

“Powerful start”?

Of course.

This - the abhorrent security alone - should be like, 24/7 on every channel invasion of Iraq TV, but no.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

Next week: the trump administration accidentally texted its war plans on my Minecraft server.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Pete Hegseth is smart enough to use Signal, but not enough to not add Jack Daniels to the group chat.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Post is constantly being deleted on Reddit. What is going on?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. Both on r/worldnews and r/europe. Not in smaller national subreddits though, where people are up in arms about the Europe comments. I don't understand why Reddit would seek to censor these leaks, as they are already disseminated across the MSM everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Social media companies just doing the bidding of their owners.

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