Just bought the oldest kid their first sleeping bag: From Nordisk rather than Marmot.
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love of fuck, stop using this meme template with canadian douchebag/pedo
As a Canadian, I agree.
So many different alternatives
To be fair, Patagonia is more ethical than some of the EU ones, all things considered.
(Although itโs absolutely ridiculously expensive)
Its not any more expensive than some of the European stuff haha
I thought the north face was a niche podcast group when I first saw the logo (I live outside of USA and EU) and was REALLY disappointed when I learned it's just the same thing as Gucci or something
North Face used to have good products, then got big and especially during COVID when a lot of middle class took up outdoor activities during travel restrictions it went the way of patagucci
made in china all over the place
Haix shoes are made in Serbia, iirc. I'm wearing nothing else since years. Once had a problem with the lace holders on a pair, they told me to send them back and actually repaired them. I'm kinda convinced.
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The last time I needed to get a jacket, I did some Internet searches and asked in three different stores, one name kept popping up every single time: Vaude seems to take this whole sustainability thing quite serious, manufactures part of their collection in Germany and guarantees fair conditions for work they outsourced.
What's with Vaude?
Decathlon is French I think?
Decathlon is involved with child and possibly slave labor through it's Asian suppliers, also the company still operates in Russia under a barely disguised name.
Yes but a lot of their stuff is made under poor and toxic circumstances by people who get paid very little. Not the best imho
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Scarpa is another good euro outdoor equipment brand
I absolutely love Scarpa. They make the only footwear that really, really, fits my weird feet off the shelf. I just wish they made ski boots for the sane.
Also if you're in the market for a new tent, Bergans makes a decent one
As a Norwegian, it hurts to say this but Hilleberg also make excellent tents.
Pricey buy you buy once and cry once.
Vibram is also in the list (IT), and it makes rubber soles (or shoes) that are used by many other brands. I love Garmont for hiking shoes.
Don't get anything made of GoreTex as that is produced by American comoany W. L. Gore & Associates. Fjellrรคven has decent cotton products that lasts. Personally I prefer Norwegian brand Bergans. You also have Hรคrkila (finish) and Klรคttermusen (Swedish) last one primally focuses on light weight climbing gear
Donโt get GoreTex because itโs using PFAS chemicals which are harmful to the nature weโre out there to enjoy.
Don't get goretex for the simple reason that the patent has expired anyway so any company can make the exact same product under another name anyway.
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Here's a directory of backpacking/hiking/outdoors vendors that I have bookmarked and have used a few times.
You can filter results by country( to exclude US) but also check out the cottage industry filter. Those are the little guys who are going to be hurting the most and they make the niche and better quality gear.
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Not a recommendation, but just for completeness sake: Supedry Japan is British!
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It seemed like every second person in Amsterdam had a fjall raven pack when I was there.
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Polish 4F!
Tenaya is a Spanish company that makes some of the most comfortable climbing shoes I have tried.
Isnt Arc'teryx Canadian?
Would explain the Canadian flag in the picture over their name.
They are owned by a Finnish company now. Same owner as Salomon.
That Finnish company is owned by a Chinese company. So it doesn't really matter. I try to avoid companies that outsource their production to Asia anyway. Doesn't matter if their millionaire owner live in Europe.
Congrat on feddit.uk for more than 50 answer to the buy EU group. Is it me or the growth is awesome lately? More people on Lemmy is nice but more like-minded people is even better.
Orthovox is missing as well. They are German.
I can only recommend La Sportiva hiking, trekking and mountains shoes. Great quality.
Vaude is missing too.
My Swedish Didriksons jacket is still holding strong since I bought it in 2016
My kids Didriksons winter suit lasted two long seasons (6 months of snow) of constant abuse until she grew out of it.
Silly me ... always thougth Patagonia was from Argentina .... but its based in Ventura, California.
I get buying European, but ditching a responsible brand like Patagonia seems misguided.
If there's anything like an ethical brand, I'm pretty sure it's them.
Agreed, it's much better to ditch "European" brands like Salomon and Arc'teryx which fall under Amer Sports which is owned (besides being 45% Chinese) in part by billionaire/premium asshat Chip Wilson:
In his book titled Little Black Stretchy Pants, Wilson wrote that he is not necessarily opposed to child labour, as "working young is excellent training for life.
In October 2024, a sign went up at Wilson's home in British Columbia, which is the most expensive home in the province. The sign criticized British Columbia premier David Eby, reading "Eby will tell you the Conservatives are 'Far right' but neglects saying that the NDP is 'Communist.'"
In early 2024, Wilson expressed concern over Lululemon's diversity and inclusion policy saying in a Forbes interview: "theyโre trying to become like the Gap, everything to everybody." He also criticized an advertisement made by the company featuring plus-sized women models, whom he said looked "unhealthy," "sickly" and "not inspirational." These statements were seen as offensive, with Time reporting them to be "fat-phobic". Lululemon was quick to distance themselves from Wilson's comments, saying, "Chip Wilson does not speak for Lululemon, and his comments do not reflect our company views or beliefs."
Buying ethically is not as easy as avoiding most American brands. Sometimes you have to dig a little deeper.
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I see ads for FjallRaven from time to time and usually I get skeptical of products in ads. Has anyone here used their products?
Very good gear and they donโt use chemicals harmful for the environment (such as Gore-Tex / PFAS).
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