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Hopefully I'm posting this in the right place, but I see Reddit developments as Tech news right now.

Wanted to share a website that is tracking Subreddits that have/will be going dark. It even has a sound notification for when they change their status.

Edit: Adding the stream https://www.twitch.tv/reddark_247

Double Edit: Data visualization https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just flipped the switch (so to speak) on a couple subs I moderate, and the largest (just shy of 1m users) will be going dark in a few hours.

What surprised me most is how well the members are took it. To be fair the subs I moderated are typically quite tech-minded, so everyone is quite in-the-know with what is happening and why.

It makes me furious that a site built and maintained by the users is being exploited at the users' expense.

I hope Reddit bleeds money from this silly line they drew in the sand.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm curious if you directed the users of those subs to any particular alternative?

I mean, apparently they are already bleeding money, but I doubt that these changes are going to do much to help in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

On two we presented the options abailable (Lemmy, Mastodon, Usnet and so on), on the biggest we didn't do that. It was a last-minute announcement, so didn't really have the time (also too many cooks with different recipes, so to speak).

I'm sure it won't matter in the long run, but should we not try? A giant company runs on advertising. And the time we stop users interacting and engaging with these ads can only be a good thing.

As I'm writing this, 4,669 of 6,934 subs have gone dark.

Its beautiful to see.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now include links to their preferred lemmy alternatives

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

At the bottom of the site, it does say “use Lemmy for less reddit shenanigans”

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know about you, but streaming the “Darkening” is like the best thing ever. Just reading all the comments as viewers cheer on each subreddit.

When r/trees wend private I was thinking “shit just got real.”

Anyway, I suggest watching the stream, if just for the cameraderie.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There’s a trees sub-lemmy but it only had pictures of actual trees when I checked yesterday

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"6236/7265 subreddits are currently dark."

85.83%

That's a pretty good response from the subs.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

This is just beautiful to watch. For once reddit comes together to spite... reddit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's sad though I truly enjoyed Reddit like obviously many here, but also to be fair I've also felt like the quality of posts and comments overall degraded and the whole thing turned into a big meme factory where only funny images with text and tiktok reposts really were uploaded.

The whole thing started going downhills as soon as the first tiktok reposts started flooding in to be fairly honest. Let's please not let this happen much here, unless of course in dedicated communities for that because everything has a place.

Also, this is my first ever post on Lemmy, hi 👋

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

500 error

Looks like it got hugged

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The level of unity has been awesome. At first I thought this might only really spread through tech minded subreddits, but it really caught on broadly.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like it got the hug of death.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow /r/nba decided to go dark. So unexpected and huge respect to the mods there. Really huge one with the NBA finals going on too.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230612030017/https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1476rje/team_and_community_rnba_is_participating_in_the/

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice to see the subreddits listed by subs. Reddit can't ignore this... interested to see how they respond. I'm sure it will be some half baked knee jerk reaction that will get the community even more against them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not entirely sure. Seems like there will be plenty of inertia from the subreddits remaining open. I'd imagine that eventually Reddit will force them open again.

But they aren't going to be getting those moderators back on the site without some sort of change. It'll be really interesting to see how much of an impact that has.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit will replace the mod teams of the core subs with some of the many power hungry citizens of the web.

If they need to I expect they will pay contracts for them.

I'm not optimistic that it will affect Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit paying moderators means they have editorial control, which means they lose safe harbor protections and are liable for all content on their site.

Arguably, Reddit picking moderators may have the same effect. See https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-9th-circuit/1856011.html.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I fell like throwing out the mods might just be that reaction. Anyway if anything, I might only share Lemmy content on Reddit in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This one has a pretty nice look with a list of all 6000 participating subreddits and fading in in real-time when a subreddit goes dark:

https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do hope the ones going dark migrate here and start over.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

already getting started.

nice place! :-)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's something so therapeutic about having Reddark open in a tab in the background - every time I hear the ding, a little voice in my head cheers. Interesting times, folks.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a handful of NSFW, but I'm surprised their isn't more since they are getting hit harder than anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

so many have gone dark already, this is impressive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going to be satisfying watching them slowly tick green.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't see myself going back to Reddit if they keep those subs closed down. However I do believe that if this "strike" goes on for longer than a week or so, the admins will forcefully replace each closed subreddit mods to make them live again.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope that if that actually happens they'll find no volunteers to actually mod those subs and realize they'll actually have to hire and pay the people that actually makes their site usable

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sadly there's always going to be people that will do this just for the feeling of insignificant power they get from moderating a subreddit

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is the 5,563 on the side the total number of subreddits!? That would mean 1/5 of all subreddits are now private. :O

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels a little apocalyptic.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Oh god here it comes. So long and thanks for all the fish.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, from what I understand, so many gave the website the hug of death they had to switch to streaming to keep the site up.

Whether or not this “Great Darkening” has any legs, it certainly got a lot of publicity.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Man, it's so satisfying to watch all of these subreddits switch to green. I really wish more of them committed to an indefinite shutdown though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I found a different one, posted by the author on the DataIsBeautiful subreddit: https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has been super interesting. I’ve never seen communities listed in this manner. I’d be interested in this kind of sort for other services as well.

Really hoping to see major players go dark soon and wishing they would stay that way, like r/videos plans to. Oh, what the world would be like if corporations actually cared about the people they profit from.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The site has been overloaded, so now they are streaming it on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/reddark_247

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

blackout.photon-reddit.com

Damn. That is only a tiny little dip in the post/comment rate so far relative to the historical cycle. What, maybe 5%, assuming the vertical axis crosses at zero? Not terribly encouraging....

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I’ve continued to tell people: This won’t kill Reddit in the sense of outright turning it into a ghost town. If your only goal is to make Reddit collapse overnight, you’re going to be disappointed. The quality content that many people here enjoy is not what makes up the frontpage of r/all or what a huge amount of passive users consume. Reddit has more than enough low quality trash to backfill the frontpage and keep users occupied.

Anybody migrating should focus on porting quality content. Let reddit live long and be a dumping ground.

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