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Summary

Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Elon Musk engaged in a heated exchange during a closed-door Cabinet meeting, with Musk accusing Rubio of firing "nobody" from his department.

Rubio angrily responded by citing 1,500 State Department staff who took early retirement and sarcastically asked if Musk wanted to rehire them just to fire them again.

The argument, which also involved Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy over FAA management. Duffy complained DOGE’s youngsters were trying to fire air traffic controllers, which Musk responded was a “lie.”

Following the meeting, Trump announced on Truth Social that future DOGE cuts would use a "scalpel" rather than a "hatchet.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Marco: you fired air traffic controllers, Emu!

Emu: nuh-uh

Yes, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, has initiated significant changes within the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), including the dismissal of numerous air traffic controllers and safety officials.

Key Developments:

February 5, 2025: Following a mid-air collision over the Potomac River, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy announced DOGE's intervention in the FAA to "upgrade our aviation system." Elon Musk emphasized plans to implement "rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system."

February 17, 2025: Reports confirmed that Elon Musk authorized the termination of hundreds of FAA safety officials. David Spero, President of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists, criticized these actions, highlighting potential national safety risks.

Additionally, SpaceX employees were assigned to the FAA's Air Traffic Control System Command Center, raising concerns about conflicts of interest due to ongoing disputes between Musk's companies and the FAA.

These measures have sparked debates regarding the implications for air traffic safety and the potential conflicts arising from Musk's dual roles in private aerospace ventures and federal oversight.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Lord of the flies. Marco is Piggie.

[–] jballs 98 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The tussle ended with Trump intervening to tell Duffy to hire “geniuses” from MIT as air traffic controllers.

This is the most WTF line in this article.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He always gets so hung up on MIT because of his uncle

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair, having nuclear.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Maybe I should run for presidemcy after all…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Appreciate you doing the footwork and sharing a link. It's astounding how incoherent it all is.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did they both look at Donald and just roll their eyes? Then crank the volume on his Paw Patrol?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He strikes me as more of the Cocomelon type.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Caillou for sure

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hahah I just copied the same paragraph to paste here. This is painful to read and even more painful to consider the problem solving skills and intellectual level of this man who is ruling one of the strongest countries in the world with an iron fist.

[–] jballs 29 points 1 day ago

My brother is an Air Traffic Controller and we were talking about this earlier. New ATCs have months of training where they get paid terribly and have to live in Oklahoma City. Nowadays they don't even get to choose exactly where they'll work afterwards. There are some classes that graduate and then have to pick between something like working in San Juan or Oakland. And then their pay is also shit for a year or two until they fully qualify.

Could you imagine going to MIT, then saying "yeah I'll take a job that pays $14 an hour training to live in Oklahoma. Then I'll let you roll the dice and send me to live in Southern California and try to live off $36,000 a year. Or you know... I can just go take a job wherever the fuck I want as an MIT grad and get paid 6 figures right out the gate."

[–] mindbleach 2 points 1 day ago

The man is exactly as dumb as he appears.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Pretty standard WAFM comment at this point

*What a fucking moron

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

They'll be lining up to be air traffic controllers!! All the MIT genius. Get them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If you care so much Marc, prove it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Trump announced on Truth Social that future DOGE cuts would use a "scalpel" rather than a "hatchet.

Trump has a weird way of saying "chainsaw" because that's what he's been doing so far, not to mention that Elmo keeps hurr duuurrr chainsaw screeching

[–] [email protected] 165 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Video would be great to illustrate the complete incompetence of these people. They're literally all trying to figure this out as it happens, have no idea wtf they are doing, and millions of people are already affected.

[–] [email protected] 179 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh it's worse.

They're not trying to figure it out as they go, they've drank the coolaid.

Musk and Trump were born into financial empires, everything they do fails but the people scrambling to pick up the pieces behind them got them huge wins and minimized loses

After a lifetime of this, their arrogance has grown to the point they've seen the people cleaning up after them as an obstacle. And now they've successfully found cultists willing to carry out their orders directly without question, there's no longer layers of people saying "boss is demanding this, how can we make it not disasterous?"

More than anything, they just seem confused why people are getting so angry at them for doing what they've always done more effectively

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

wish I could upvote this more, this is important to understand

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wish they'd switch to Flavor Aid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lowest iq government in history

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] SapphironZA 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You will be happy to know that the word for "shit" in afrikaans is "kak", so the term is particularly accurate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Mmmm, irony layer cake.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Usually I would be happy to learn a new word, even this word, if only we weren't experiencing this word.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I think he's one of putins orcs. Not "like". Is.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, clowns are supposed to be funny and enjoyable for everyone. There is nothing funny or enjoyable about any of this. The US is being run into the ground by absolute fucking psychopaths and more than half the country is applauding it whilst simultaneously burying their head in the sand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, clowns are horrifying, so I'd say the previous poster's assessment is accurate.

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[–] evilcultist 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sure sounds like Musk is ordering firings, despite the article I saw today saying it’s up to the cabinet and DOGE only makes recommendations.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

How can you tell if Trump or Musk are lying?

They spoke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

It’s only as official as is legal. If not “it’s just a joke bro” they can issue a single email or statement that shows just enough that it’s a joke bro and can’t be prosecuted. “I changed my mind so I can’t be prosecuted for anything I’ve done…”

Take them to court? Well there’s that one statement that it’s not real… such that a years worth of ACTION doesn’t count.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago

Speaking of DOGE, the full list of names and email addresses got posted on bluesky this morning, lol.

Can't wait for the fallout of that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Aweww are they having a lovers quarrel?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm just so glad that they're learning Civic lessons at our expense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they will learn more if they lose the elections in a landslide or by a majority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it is reasonable not to want to wait until mid-terms. Given my location and familial duties, I don't think I can effectively protest, but I agree with the efforts of people that choose to.

Given the utter incompetence on display so far, I at least don't think the Trump administration will be able to do away with or ignore the mid-term results. That said, unless the mid-term results are truly impressive, I don't think a (third) impeachment will result in an end to the Trump administration and the beginning of a Vance one.

Be safe out there.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

not fast enough

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Settle this the Hamilton/Burr way like MEN!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Following the meeting, Trump announced on Truth Social that future DOGE cuts would use a “scalpel” rather than a "hatchet.

Well, Trump probably figured out the more effective lie in using this language. That's what people want to hear. I'm sure nothing will change.

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