"Disproportionate" to threatening Canadian sovereignty? Fuck you and your whiskey.
this post was submitted on 06 Mar 2025
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But I was told the consequences wouldn't apply to meeeeee
So uh.. any guesses where this guy donates politically?
Mostly towards democratic candidates. You can look it up, opensecrets.org
Was being rhetorical. 😉
"Wait. They're allowed to hit back?"
Dear Eric Gregory
Everything that your association produces is an optional, non-essential product.
For every specific product produced, there is a comparable or superior Canadian or European product available.
What you are going to find, is that we do not take threats to our sovereignty lightly. You are also going to learn that our memories are long. Donald can end the whole tariff fiasco today, and your sales will not recover.
You may wish to ask your president how alienating all foreign markets is supposed to make international sales easier.
Do you think this was targeting Canadians? It’s clearly talking about how the tariffs are a result of US tariffs hence “retaliatory tariffs” is used.
This is for American politicians to get them to understand how the tariffs hurt the Americans in his organization.
Everything I've stated is just a fact. Whomever Eric is addressing is irrelevant.
But what you should do first before lending him a sympathetic ear, is clarify who he voted for, and if he or his organization donated any funds to elect Donald Trump.
Your comment could be factual but it is still irrelevant as nothing you state is germane to what he is saying there.
Whom he voted for changes nothing about the point he is making which is tariffs are going to hurt Americans.
Shrug.
Anyhoo, that'll be zero dollars and zero cents spent by myself on American booze for the rest of my life.
Now, based on you trying to trying to set me straight on what's making republican booze producers very sad, I think I'll put more effort into getting my fellow Canadians to follow suit.
Im not trying to convince you of anything other than the fact that you completely misunderstood everything in that post to a surprising degree.
How do you know who he voted for? Votes aren’t public record. His organization gave no money in 2024 according to OpenSecrets.
Im not trying to convince you of anything other than the fact that you completely misunderstood everything in that post to a surprising degree.
Retalitory measures against Bourbon harm these markets and jeopardize growth for years to come, including the unjust and disproportionate removal òf American spirits from retail shelves and prohibition on new purchases of alcohol from American companies.
This is where some business association guy is explaining that Canadians are overreacting to the direct threat to their sovereignty, by their former greatest ally and friend.
I promise you, I completely understood what was said and what was meant.
How do you know who he voted for?
If you were forced to guess, and the penalty for guessing wrong was your immediate execution, what would your guess be? Yeah, exactly.
He's explaining how the consequence of the tariffs is the targeting of Bourbon because it is so American specific. His organization does represent Bourbon before KY and Federal Congress after all so his targeted audience is going to be US lawmakers.
Apologies for the upcoming harsh language, but I feel that you are not listening for understanding:
Fuck your Bourbon industry.
Fuck the notion of "intended audience" when the whole world is watching and listening.
Your president is threatening our sovereignty.
Unjust and unfair pulling of American product?
Would you like to know who has the abso-fucking-lutely least weight in judging what is just or unjust when my sovereignty is threatened?
That's right, some fuckface beverage rep. You rep merely one product among a multitude that we're going scorched earth on.
Now, since the topic is reading for understanding, do you think you can pick up what I'm putting down?
What you are going to find, is that we do not take threats to our sovereignty lightly.
Are you sure? Because Trump has been doing it for months.
Are you sure? Looks like Trump the little bitch that he is, delayed the onset of tariffs on Canadian goods.
See if Canadian consumers stop actively seeking out Canadian substitute of American products.
Observe how rapidly we strengthen our international trade with our real allies.
Yeah, and champagne can't be made anywhere but one place in France
Whoop de fucking do.
When I do drink, it's likely to be bourbon, but it isn't anything that can't be made anywhere in the world. It's not some mystical magical secret, it's just a process with the name "bourbon".
Im not sure that’s going to be the case. People attempt to make scotch style whisky around the world yet no one seems to do this well likely because aging whisk(e)y is very dependent on heat and humidity. Simply put you might not be able to make an equivalent to bourbon outside the south/midwestern USA (I know other states can make it but most are meh at best).
Regardless this is for American politicians not foreign citizens. That is why the final paragraph is making a call to our leaders.
Bourbon is much more individualized by barrels and recipe than heat and humidity.
Yeah, it plays a role, but even some of the best pro tasters out there can't reliably blind pick bourbon by location, and there's a ton of difference in environment between just Kentucky and Tennessee's averages in heat and humidity. When you start breaking it down even further, like between something from the mountains vs something further inland, those variances get higher.
The average drinker though, they'd have trouble telling the difference between Kentucky bourbon and crown royal to begin with. Which isn't contradicting your point, it's more a general thing about how little the details matter to someone that isn't into a specific type of liquor.
"Bourbon is much more individualized by barrels and recipe than heat and humidity."
That true for all whisk(e)y but the reason why no one in KY can make anything Scotch like is because of the heat and humidity difference between KY and Scotland. Im not claiming it has a sense of terroir like you fond in most AOP Burgundy wines.
I'd point more to barrels, recipe, water, and specific processes, but I ain't mad at your take :)
It is also a culture and tradition that goes back a long time, and it would be a loss for it to be killed
That's true.
But, I don't think the culture of bourbon making would disappear, only the brands.
There's people making illegal bourbon right now, and they'd still make it if every company out there collapsed. It's right there alongside moonshine culture. Those traditions aren't going to die because of tariffs. They'll just go back to a smaller scale of production.
That's a good point. My biggest worry would be for indie distilleries: people that are actually making a good product, and are part of the community
Word, they can only down size so much before they're gone because they already do small batches. Once the business goes bust, even though the actual expertise is still (word play intentional) in use, ramping back up to scale and all the costs that incurs is going to make them stay gone
Is everyone skipping the last sentence of the post? He’s appealing to American politicians not foreign ones.
Yesterday he said our sale accounted for about 1% of his total sales. They can handle that. Now he’s making announcements to reassure his workers.
He should probably write another letter to Mitch McConnell with with more terse language for enabling all this idiocy that lead to the sudden loss of his profits and jobs for the Americans he so cherishes. The word "retaliatory" needs to be dropped from future letters and maybe he should pick up a history book to cure himself of ignorance about how tariffs work. Oh who am I kidding, it's easier to just blame everyone else! (/s there on the last sentence)
This happened, to a lesser extent, the last time Trump put tariffs in place.
Wait, 95%? I thought the requirement was to be made in Kentucky, so wouldn't that be 100%? Or are there weird carveouts in Tennessee or something? 🤔
Nope - it's a popular misconception. Bourbon can be made anywhere in the US. You could make it in Long Island if you wanted, provided you had the necessary permits. It's just that around 95% of it is made in Kentucky, so people think that it all has to be made there. Kentucky bourbon has a distinct taste mostly due to the water, which is often sourced from limestone-rich areas, so is quite alkaline.
Im going with 95% of the brands are in KY because MGP that was LDI that was the Seagrams distillery is in IN and Dickel is in TN and both make a ton of bourbon. There are brands that just blend Dickel barrels and sell those.
It's a "gentlemen's agreement" between the distillers that bourbon comes from Kentucky and the same spirit produced in Tennessee is called Tennessee Whiskey. It's not a labeling requirement from any law or regulation; nobody is making anyone comply with the convention.
Two in the thoughts one in the prayers.
“How well does bourbon pair with faces?” asked the leopard.
Bourbon’s disgusting anyway. I haven’t had any in over a decade.
Right? Give me a scotch, anyday.