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Summary

French President Emmanuel Macron publicly corrected Donald Trump in the Oval Office after Trump falsely claimed Europe was only "loaning" money to Ukraine.

Macron clarified that Europe provided 60% of Ukraine’s wartime aid as grants and guarantees, not loans. Trump smirked but did not contest the correction.

The exchange came as Trump softened his stance on Russia, including voting against a UN resolution for Russia’s withdrawal from Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

brutally fact checks

This administration is going to kill so many people and liberals are just going to wag their fingers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

What do you suggest a president do during a diplomatic meeting with another president other than saying words?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

The funniest thing was Trumps reaction.

He couldn't keep the ridiculous stone face, and when attempting to make a smirk and eye-roll to show disregard or whatever that juvenile expression is supposed to show, he couldn't even do that with any confidence.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Literally the most polite possible interaction by Macron.

Outrage farming media - "BRUTAL FACT CHECK"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Sadly it's more than most people have done, and that's including the media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He didn't SLAM him, so I can't take the headline seriously

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It is to the French. That’s a very typical slam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How does it compare to BLASTING, though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Turn the volume down, it’s going to hurt your ears.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Toss in slamming someone in a diplomatic meeting is done with a lot different language than on the street corner and yelling "In your face!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Or in a classroom saying “boom! Got em!” After your classmate realized you’re the one who swapped chairs cause you had the one who had the chair that made fart noises.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

Oh yeah. So brutal. Brutally touching each other. Touch me more brutally Donny

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

Weird way to call our president a moron

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Macron is a smooth operator isn't he?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Not according to his poll numbers

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

what the actual fuck. we voted against russia withdrawing form ukraine. no offense fellow americans but I hate an aweful lot of you. If your a great person in every other way and you voted for this. well your still an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Only 28% of American adults voted for this. I voted against fascist every chance I could over the last 8 years and now I am trying to move my family out of the US to escape this neonazi dumpster fire.... So please don't hate us all

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

yeah there is a reason I said voted for it. I did not even add or did not vote against it so I feel I was being pretty restrained in my comment limiting to half the ones who brought him to the position actively and not the ones who did through apathy. I unfortunately are not in position to move out.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not only Trump's argument was bullshit, it also shows to the world that he is incapable of understanding the concept of doing the right thing if it doesn't profit him in some way. The man is completely devoid of compassion and does not understand the struggles of anyone who isn't in his position as a billionaire.

To him, the only struggle that matters is the "struggle" of billionaires like him who might have to give some money back to the society that made their fortune and to reduce human suffering. When you hear him talk, you can clearly tell that in his mind, paying taxes is the worst atrocity to ever exist and no sacrifice is too big to remedy that. He will happily feed an entire country into the clutches of a brutal autocracy and destroy an entire government that people depend on to not starve to death just so he and other billionaires like him can pay lower taxes.

Stop voting for rich people. They are completely disconnected from reality and clearly mentally ill.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Let's try a brutal hipcheck next?

The truth doesn't matter to Trump, his cabinet nor his supporters. When will the media learn this?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

This. They do not care about facts or logic unless it serves their agenda. Truth is wholly malleable to these lunatics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That doesn't mean people shouldn't be fact-checking him. You won't sway the faithful, but you can knock some sense into the unaligned.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What so calling lies out is brutal now? The fuck did we come to this? Macron did what any reasonable person should do; touch his leg like "oh, you poor stupid thing" and Trump didnt shatter. He hobbled and agreed like the idiot old man he is.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait... He wasn't even SLAMMED?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

To the French, that was very much a slam. Logic over optics.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

"Man does thing everyone should have been doing to every idiot in power for decades."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It won’t matter to all of the people who have doubled down on Trump

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

It's important that the few remaining civilized world leaders be seen to be unintimidated by Trump and Putin. It helps to break through his facade of being an invincible bully.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean yes, but it does matter to me. I want to see more gov't authorities call him on his shit

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but we can't expect to argue fascists out of fascism, whether they're leaders or followers.

Trump smirked as he was called out in real time and shook his hand to suggest the 60 percent figure was not precise. He then appeared to mouth “OK” and smirked as his French counterpart continued his fact-check.

Fascists will just smirk at your attachment to reason and truth, while loading their guns. Fascism has to be fought in other ways.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

and I agree with that. If the French president pistol whipped him and finished the job I would've had even greater things to say, however, as someone without any amount of power comparable to that level of government, I'll take what I can get.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As much as I despise Macron, that was pretty nice to see. Can't wait for the flood of nonsense from Trump about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't Macron the one that matched Trump's ridiculous handshake in the first term?

Oh, I just searched and apparently they did the same handshake battle yesterday lol

[–] stringere 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That was Trudeau

Edit: I was mistaken. Though he has had his own Trump handshake showdowns

[–] kablammy 2 points 17 hours ago

Holy shit the quote from Trudeau in that video aged poorly: "Canada and the United States will forever be a model example of how to be good neighbours"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder what's the point of these hyperbolic articles everytime Trump gets slightly rebuked by someone. Best case scenario we all get a giggle out of it and move on, worst case scenario the world's oldest baby throws a tantrum and starts a war with France over his bruised ego

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

It shows that someone is pushing back on his lies, instead of the narrative that zero people are.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

brutally

lmfao watch the video

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

More of this from everyone please.

I’m not a fan of Macron, but at least he’s willing to call bullshit when bullshit is presented to him.

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