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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One is covered in heat-resistant silicone, the other is covered in flammable wax.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Silicone isn't what makes parchment paper heat-resistant (and isn't even used on most standard parchment papers). Cellulose pulp is treated with sulfuric acid to cross-link the cellulose molecules, making them more chemically and thermally resistant, and the result is parchment paper.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I would prefer you to be correct, because I am reading other comments that say some parchment paper is teflon coated. PFA pollution arising from PTFE production for pots and pans is bad enough, but to use Teflon on a consumable item should be an obvious "ban the fuck out of it already" action item. I mean, all PTFE production should be banned based on what we're learning about PFAs, but for fucks sake, disposable items? EDIT: google says the vast majority of parchement paper is silicone coated, not teflon coated like one German asserts in another comment in here.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's really grocery stores fault. They sell them right next to each other and often have like 8 different brand choices of one but only 1 or 2 of the other which is nestled somewhere inbetween the others.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's an American language fault. Parchment paper is called baking paper elsewhere. You can't make a mistake when choosing between baking paper and non baking paper.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Parchment is something you write on, as far as I'm concerned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was reading this and thinking how come you even have two papers to choose from. Baking paper goes in the oven and parchment… isn’t that like an animal skin you write on? I don’t think I’ve ever used wax paper for anything, so I can’t imagine what that’s for.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm just glad I live in an area that calls carbonated beverages "pop". I can only imagine the mix-ups that could've occurred when trying to use baking soda otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I have yet to see a single one with a giant badge that says “not for oven use!” Moreover, wax paper is always marketed as “microwave safe.” I know a microwave is not an oven, but it’s not ludicrous to equate the two.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also each of them resists different type of foods better. Wax paper will hold up to wet food, and parchment paper holds up better to oily food.

This is not anything I can prove just personal experience so take it with a grain of salt

[–] Goldmage263 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And let's not forget about butcher's paper. Also totally different application but still no oven.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can use it for lower temperatures. (< 300°F). You can realistically go up to 400°s but I think it starts to do odd things when above 300°F (it's been awhile since Ive used it so take that with a grain of salt).

It's used in a lot of smoking/roasting applications to keep the moisture in. Just don't let it touch the element and you should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's used in a lot of smoking/roasting applications to keep the moisture in. Just don't let it touch the element and you should be fine.

What is this, "el-em-ent?" I don't understand. Are you talking about the hot coals?

(On a related note, Hank Hill was wrong.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, yeah, essentially coals. An element (or coil) is what's used to heat a standard convection oven or toaster.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which one holds up better to a grain of salt? Should I use aluminum foil for that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No, calcium chloride actually corrodes aluminum.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, wax paper is basically an unrolled candle.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

parchment = oven safe

wax = oven fire

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You understand that the reason we make candles out of wax is because it's a solid fuel, right? The same reason candles work is the reason wax paper isn't oven safe.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of people think that the wick itself is the fuel. I only recently realized that it’s “wicking” up melted wax, and the wax itself is the fuel.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Somebody on Reddit once called me a backward Amish for knowing how a candle works.

This was the meme I commented on

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

It breaks my heart that examining and understanding the world around you is the kind of thing people disparage

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I recently learned that most people are totally misunderstanding candles when Hank Green had to do a whole series on "where does the wax go?" on tiktok. Blew my mind that it wasn't obvious to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone had asked me “what percentage of people know how candles work?” I would probably have answered something like “95% of those over the age of 5”. This is very disconcerting. Not that candles are terribly important, but just the lack of reasoning.

[–] zalgotext 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it really that weird to not fully understand how candles work? They're rarely used nowadays if you have electricity, and it's not exactly the most intuitive - I mean wax melts, and reveals more wick, and the wick is the thing you set fire to, so I don't think it's that weird to think the wick is burning.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Reusable baking sheet liners are pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They are a bit. Kinda wish they were a tiny bit more rigid. That said, you can have my silpats when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

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[–] newIdentity 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In Germany we just take regular "Backpapier" (literally "baking paper") and put it in the oven.

~~It's basically just Polytetrafluroethylene, better known as PTFE or Teflon™~~

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

You're telling me that one of the reasons that water is globally polluted with PFAs is because Germans love David Hasselho... I mean, because German parchment paper is coated in Teflon? EDIT: google says that the vast majority of parchment paper is silicone coated, not teflon. I was starting to get a justice arrhythmia, I can calm down a bit now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come to the UK. We have foil.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We've got it too but we pronounce it right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Who fucking calls foil "right"?!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don't think wax paper goes in the oven either

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

As someone who doesn't cook, now I'm not clear on which you don't put in the oven, and what kind of paper you are supposed to use.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Parchment can go in the oven. Wax paper will catch on fire if you try.

I learned it the hard way.

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