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I just rewatched The Good Place and I'm having an existential crisis... (again)


Like what if, everything I'm seeing is just a simulated reality of a habitable planet, but its all just part of the torture? And worst yet, what if everyone else is just a demon torturing me..

See: Climate Change, Politics, I mean wtf, I leave PRC, an authoritarian country, just to end up in another autocracizing country? (talking about USA btw) Like this seems like part of the script, this is a torture chamber. All the racism I faced, bullying, evil teachers, people olaying loud music in the middle of the night, shitty parents, random kids screeching throught the neighborhood, Everything. Like if this world is really a random chaotic universe, there should be both good and bad if things are random. But the overwhenming thing is just bad. This just has to be a torture chamber. My "parents" and my "brother" could just be demons in disguise trying to torture me.

Like IDK why I'm even asking this, all of Lemmy could be part of the torture, what if everyone on Lemmy is also a demon that are gonna dismiss my theory anyways. (Hello Lemming Demons πŸ‘€)

And you might say "Well if its hell, why did they let you know about such a concept", well that's the thing, it makes it more realistic. If a subject in this Fake Universe Torture Chamber wants to question it, the other "people" who could be demons that would dismiss the claim and just say "that's a work of fiction".

Oh yea btw, if this is actually The Bad Place, I have something to say to the demons: go fuck yourselves with your demon tentacles, ya basic


Okay I'm not literally saying I believe all this, but its a scary concept to think about. And now I can't sleep. Thanks, The Good Place

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago

It doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because hell isn't real. There has never been a single shred of evidence, in the history of mankind, to suggest otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

But realistically, and specifically OPs scenario, it doesn't matter because there's literally nothing you can do about it except try to be better than you were yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

From your post I can say you have delusion of persecution which is a symptom of schizophrenia. You might need professional help if whatever you wrote here is actually how you feel.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 22 hours ago

Descartes' evil demon strikes again. πŸ˜‰

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Look, we also probably don't have free will, but we should live and act like we do. Don't let the minute details keep you from getting what you can out of this life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty content accepting that I am a walking series of chemical reactions. Makes more sense to me than the alternative and I don't really understand why it fucks with people so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm kind of in the same boat.

I think it can fuck with people that rely on self determination for security or self justification? At least the couple of people I've met that take issue with the idea seem to mostly be uncomfortable with the implication that their choices and actions might mean less.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I mean, I'd love to stop thinking about determinism, but... its not like I could just choose stop thinking about it, since I don't have free will to choose to not think about it... ironic πŸ˜…

[–] ogmios 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

How do you know it isn't actually Eden, but you just focus on all the wrong things to see it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

This is the kind of gaslighting I come to Lemmy for!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What if world did end in 2012, and we are in simulation, or hell/heaven or something like that

[–] Darkcoffee 11 points 22 hours ago

Definitely hell.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

We don't, but it also doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

One way we train AI models to "align" them is to create a lot of different ones, and then see how they perform on various tests.

Ones that answer those tests correctly are saved and used to create the next generation of models, those that answer incorrectly are deleted.

What if this is all an AI alignment test that's some alien kid's AI homework that got a C-?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is "actually Earth" some idealised version of Earth where the greedy and the corrupt don't inevitably end up ruining everything for everyone but themselves? Because otherwise "actually Earth" and Hell could well be the same damn thing.

Or if you subscribe to the Catholic fanfic that is Dante's Inferno, we can talk about circles of hell, each one worse than the last. And where we are right now clearly isn't the bottom one. It definitely feels like it's dropped a layer or two in recent years, but we haven't hit rock bottom.

I could add a "yet" to that, but for some in this wondrous circle, it definitely already feels like it, and some feel like they're thundering towards it with no way to stop it.

But, I guess I'm feeling philosophical at the moment, because this just occurred to me: If there's a fly in the ointment, it means we have ointment.

These words will probably ring hollow in a few days when the ointment catches fire. (I'm not sure what that means in terms of translating back from metaphor into reality, but ointment catching fire definitely feels like something that could happen.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

We don't know but it's impossible to prove or disprove so just ignore the possibility and get on with your life

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Absurdism > Nihilism

We may be in hell, but at least I can laugh at the existential horror of being alive.

[–] neidu3 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm definitely at the bottom right, with a dash of absurdism.

The sun is gonna explode soon anyway - might as well enjoy it in the stupidest way possible while it lasts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What sort of time frame are you expecting to live on if that’s soon for you?

[–] neidu3 4 points 19 hours ago

Ok, soon-ish

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to think, if it were all just a simulation, whoever running it would be better at it. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

This is sustainability farming for demons. Do the bare minimum and harvest the sweet anger, sadness, frustration, etc. The fact that it seem like madness but still possible is a bonus. All this to keep the human souls from shattering from traditional hell torture.