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Obviously excluding videos whose authors explicitly do not want to, or copyrighted content that could create problems for individual instances.

By doing this PeerTube could become a kind of youtube database of quality content, excluding shorts and toxic/futile videos. What do you think of this approach? Could it make PT more attractive, or would it create problems for the platform?

I'm sure many creators would do it themselves but don't have time, or many would do it but don't even know about the existence of the Fediverse. Perhaps you could start by making “fan channels,” with all the most important and significant videos on a youtube channel (so without having to stay up-to-date on recent releases).

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Two things to consider:

  • It's likely illegal to take other people's content and re-publish it on your own terms
  • Peertube admins have to pay for storage. So don't dump random noise there. It has to be useful / worth it. Especially if you make someone else pay for the server space.
[–] Jumuta 14 points 20 hours ago

storage issues are very real, if op wants to do this they really need to do it on their own instance

[–] Dariusmiles2123 48 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think every creator should be contacted before doing duch a thing and I guess a lot would not agree since most of them wouldn’t make any money on Peertube except if people support them through something like Patreon.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If you have the rights or it's cc then that's fine.

If you don't make sure you have permission from the creators or rights holders.

Feel free to post to: [email protected] if/when you do!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And the permission of the peertube admins. A single channel on YouTube can easily be over a TB. Just casually dumping a TB or two of storage onto their wallets is going to cause them to notice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Admins have the ability to add upper limits to user uploads. I set mine to 100gb but it's a family instance.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

You can do it with videos that’s under the CC license.

I have myself setup a mirror of the official Guild Wars 2 channel, so I can watch their videos on PeerTube. I haven’t asked, but I don’t think they have a problem with the free advertisement.

Best people can do is convince creators on YouTube to also post their content to PeerTube, as well as engage with their audience on PeerTube.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

I would instead suggest to contact the youtube video creators directly and ask them to upload their content on a peertube instance (and give an example instance link).

[–] mindbleach 2 points 15 hours ago

Twitch is about to delete a metric shitload of past streams, erasing a huge portion of speedrunning history.

Tumblr destroyed a decade of fanart because some of it felt icky.

Nosferatu's continued existence was a crime.

Preservation is not a matter of permission.

Reupload anything you care about, anywhere you can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

Not only is there the issue of getting approval from the video creators, there's the issue that most PeerTube servers aren't ready to handle a huge influx in uploads, as this would likely be a bulk operation.

Personally I think mirroring YouTube content would be more viable once ActivityPods lands and is integrated with PeerTube, which could potentially let you self host your PeerTube account data while still being part of a separate "home instance", which would greatly help with the storage issue for PeerTube as we could all bring our own storage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

The “we started uploading” is a can of worms.

At some point, the “we” will be sued unless the legal paperwork with consent from the authors is well done. Not to mention the ton of copyright materials and music that are actually licensed for use on YouTube but not anywhere else, not to mention everything that is clearly worthy of copyright strikes but YouTube failed to notice they were serving.

While YouTube may have the legal muscle to deal with copyright infringement and appease the rights owners with some checks, a network of volunteers is not equipped to play those “games.”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is already an automatic option on most peertube instances. My guess is most popular creators are not interested in giving up their ad revenue.

[–] Jumuta 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

it's probably that they're not willing to put in the effort to republish every video on peertube when the status quo works fine, or that they don't know about peertube's existence.

Louis Rossmann for example definitely cares about FOSS/Free ecosystems is a giant proponent of ad blockers, but doesn't post on peertube.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Most peertube instances auto duplicate your YouTube channel for you.

[–] Jumuta 3 points 20 hours ago

oh interesting, I doubt most youtubers know about it though, it should be promoted as much as peertube itself imo

[–] Jumuta 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

applying the Facebook ai training approach to the fediverse I see, I'm 100% sure this won't villainise the fediverse at all!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Because, contrary to what you may think you've observed over the past ten+ years, copying and republishing anyone's content without their permission is a US copyright infringement.

So yeah; if you want to get their permission, ensure all their links and such are migrated over, and do all the work for them to mirror content they've created without the benefit of making any money on it, have at it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

I'd rather people create original content for it in fields other than tech (especially science and book videos); it's annoying enough when people reupload Tiktok videos to Loops.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

How about doing it after a certain period has elapsed? A week, or 30 days, say.

This would approximate the freemium model where early access is paid and archives are free.

It might make it easier to get creators on board.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Would be good for folks to make all reaction videos on peertube.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it’s more a question of getting content creators to Peertube and the only way that will happen is if they add monitization which you need $ from ads or donations

[–] Jumuta 2 points 20 hours ago

I don't think most big YouTubers care much about YouTube ad revenue these days, they make so much more money from audience manipulation (e.g. sponsor spots) so the current peertube system would be fine.

I honestly think the biggest current issues are that it costs a lot of money to host peertube because of the high resource requirements (storage costs are compounding as well) and that the network effect means that very few people will use it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

I used to see people do this here and there but they got bored after a few months because nobody watched the content. If you could get a bot to do this, I could see this being a longer term project, but if it gets big enough some folks might object as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Eh just get an AI to make AI versions of all the videos you want to watch on YouTube, then upload those. Then you wouldn’t be stealing anything obviously.

[–] Jumuta 3 points 20 hours ago

two worst ideas in the universe combined into one, maybe add some 'cloud' or 'blockchain' to make it even worse