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[–] merc 3 points 55 minutes ago

Nobody voted for Musk, but they did vote for Trump. They voted for a GOP controlled senate and a GOP controlled house. They voted for this administration despite the Project 2025 roadmap making it clear what Trump and the GOP were going to do if they were put in charge. And now, they're doing it.

In the past they haven't protested as more and more power has been given to presidents, both D and R. So now Trump is using all that power and delegating it to someone of his choosing. This isn't a coup. A coup is an unlawful seizure of power. The power was handed to Trump and the GOP lawfully, and Trump is just delegating.

This is a real Leopards Eating People's Faces moment for the USA. This is the result of decades of the American people expressing their will, or at least not objecting strenuously. This is the country that voted Carter out of office and enthusiastically voted in Reagan. It's a country where most of the democrats celebrate Bill Clinton, despite his policies of deregulation and deindustrialization. Compare that to Germany where the mere fact that the slightly right-wing government was willing to work with two far-right AfD members has been enough to get hundreds of thousands of people out on the street, protesting.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Remember: it's not just trump and musk to blame, the entire Republican party is responsible for supporting all this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The American people too, don't forget about them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

For the second time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Never let Mitch McConnell off the hook, despite how he now says he doesn't like what Trump his doing. Since this all started, he has done nothing but enable him and has done as much as anyone to put the guy in power. Same to be said of Graham. When this all goes terribly wrong(er), none of us should, for a second, allow them a pass on any future backtracking or apologizing that they might do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to do a bit of Both-Sides-ism, big chunks of the Dem Establishment have also been very friendly with Elon. FFS, he didn't have any trouble landing contracts under the Biden Admin. And he led Gavin Newsom around by the nose with his Hyperloop promises for nearly a decade.

But I'd say the more pervasive concern is how heavily leveraged Elon's businesses are with respect to his Saudi creditors. And that's the real snarl at the end of this problem. The US has made the Saudi Royal Family such an enormous nexus of dollar inputs and outputs that Aramco might as well be a second Federal Reserve.

Our addiction to fossil fuels is driving significant chunks of our bad policy, both domestic and foreign. And while you can wax poetic about Americans "not voting for this", there's a deep socio-economic bond between American industry and cheap oil. Americans "vote" for the Saudis with their labor hours and their consumer spending on a daily basis.

[–] explodicle 2 points 1 hour ago

We don't have a lot amount of choice in our employment and consumer spending because of regulatory capture and economies of scale. Without any new coordination mechanism, getting off oil will have to be a top-down change.

Big oil has convinced us to cut down our own "carbon footprint" to encourage purity testing and exhaustion instead of collective action. They know it's an externalities problem... do we?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Also if the dem inside trader are happy with their stock going to the moon they dont care what happen to the rest.

The whole establishment is based on corruption and foreign influence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

And to a lesser extent, the corpo Dems for their pissweak "opposition".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

yeah but also people voted for the guy after Elon said he's officially buying him and jumped around like a reanimated troglodyte to celebrate his purchase.

anyone with a second brain cell could tell that he would be in charge even if he weren't doing it so publicly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It’s amazing that destruction of his reputation is going to go down in history as surpassing his destruction of the Twitter brand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He's buying the means to determine how history books are written.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

History books are written at a state level actually, you can thank the lost-causers for that one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

History books are written by the winners. We'll have to wait to see what they say about Muskrat and Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

His reputation was and is being a scammer who got lucky.

I think the bigger historical footnote will be that he was allowed anywhere near a government in the first place

[–] explodicle 1 points 1 hour ago

The government was designed for guys like him.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

hmmm this was clear as day before the election... so a more accurate headline would be "the majority of people who voted, voted for Elon... the majority of the rest couldn't be bothered"

Putting that aside, I am holding predictions until the Feb 05 marches and I am willing to give the dormant populous of the USA a couple more weeks to go on a general strike and stop this madness... but it increasingly seems the people in the USA are now too numb, too busy, too stressed out, too ignorant to realize they are sheep being taken to the slaughter house

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

That's just it. Most people are too numb, busy, stressed or ignorant. I reckon it's by design

[–] [email protected] 34 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not in the US, but the news coming out almost daily since Trump took office has been pretty worrying to me. I encourage everyone to watch and spread this video: How Tech Billionaires Plan to Destroy America. I feel like a tinfoil hatter but, what's laid out in the video is very convincing after just a couple weeks into Trump's presidency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah as a non-American, it certainly does look from the outside as if a ketamine-fuelled Nazi is going around just taking over government offices largely unopposed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, watching this unfold makes me wonder just how useless things like a constitution and laws and due process really are in every other country. Because apparently none of those things actually matter and some rich asshole that wasn't elected can seize power tomorrow if they want. While no one does anything about it. Makes it all seem like a big joke.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's the result of over 50 years of chipping away at all the anti corruption laws. Trump wouldn't have been able to do this with the laws put in after Nixon, but there's been a concerted effort to overturn all of it through the Supreme Court.

You should listen to the Masterplan podcast that lays it all out, if you haven't yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

I disagree there, they are still breaking laws, like what Musk is doing at Treasury, but there is no one enforcing the law. No one (Founding Fathers) accounted for Congress and the Supreme Court being so captured that they would do nothing to threats like this.

That is a huge difference from Nixon. His own party turned against him quickly when the evidence showed the illegal actions were connected to him directly. The modem Republicans never will do that to Trump or things he commands.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah it's crazy to me, over 300 million citizens in the US alone, but just a handful of billionaires is all it takes to destroy democracy and the government. It honestly feels like violence will be the only option to get at these billionaires as it seems there is no longer any way to cripple them financially. They are completely fearless in their meddling.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But they knew the close relationship, the money spent, the egos of all involved. How did they NOT see this coming? I hate to say it but it was inevitable that something bad was going to happpen, maybe not as fast as it has, but it was clear a vote for Trump was a vote for Musk.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think less people actually knew than we think. Sure they saw Musk on stage with their mango mussolini, but they couldn't put two and two together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, it’s a bummer but I think many comments are giving the American public too much credit.

The combined effects of “decent white Christians simply vote Republican” and “super rich white man good, two super rich white men better” probably count for a majority of trump’s votes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

To be fair Elon was announced at the RNC aka the Break The Grindr party. Everyone was bummed that JD Vance had an Indian wife and he was barely a 6 (tho the talking heads kept shameless commenting how hott he was). All the pussy dried up and then Trumps crew started showing Musk off. He’s been a lovely item ever since. Guy is swept up in what little glamour there is for those swamp monsters. Now his tanks are tanking. The kardassians curse strikes again.

[–] [email protected] 208 points 21 hours ago (15 children)

And letting a thin-skinned, Ketamine-fueled, video-game cheating, Nazi apologist billionaire take over the machinery of the United States is not something that anyone voted for.

mother jones throwin hands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

I hate how ketamine is always catching strays over this idiot's behavior...

[–] jballs 11 points 14 hours ago

The best part is every one of those adjectives is also a hyperlink.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He didn't seize control. He was given it by the President. I figured the article would cover the nuance the headline missed, but it didn't.

And then I see others here making the same point and getting downvoted.

The problem is Trump and the very best people he is once again bringing in.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He purchased it from the president.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 21 hours ago (18 children)
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