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Canadian Ambassador Kirsten Hillman expressed disappointment over Donald Trump’s newly imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico, calling them disruptive to a strong trade relationship.

The tariffs, set to take effect Tuesday, are aimed at pressuring cooperation on immigration and drug control. Canada plans retaliatory tariffs on $107 billion in U.S. goods.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has not spoken with Trump since his inauguration. Hillman stressed Canada’s desire for continued partnership but warned of strong public demand for a firm response.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Only about a third of us. The rest either voted for them or didn't care enough to vote.

[–] AlecSadler 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck both of those groups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Even the people who voted for him or are closely involved with his election are also confused because they haven't got their exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trumps ego NEEDS the optics for himself to be strong, so he makes an issue where there is none to control the narrative and pressure other presidents. Like a bully calling someone smelly and fat in the lunch room. It's not about this country or that country, he doesn't care about anyone not named Trump. He wants publicly, other leaders to kiss his ring so he can make the stone cold steve austin X motion and say "suck it!" to anyone else.

OH also crashing the economy is good for billionaires who can absorb the hit without changing their lifestyle at all and just buy infrastructure and government works to privatize.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Agreed to everything you said, but the X motion and "suck it!" does not come from Stone Cold Steve Austin. It was a staple of Degeneration X. Sorry for nitpicking

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The tariffs, set to take effect Tuesday, are aimed at pressuring cooperation on immigration and drug control.

Canada would have cooperated already, that's what having allies means. This is going to your neighbor and holding their dog hostage to borrow a cup of sugar - they would have done it anyway, but now you're making an enemy for nothing.

And, since Trump announced that nothing Canada could do would stop the tariffs, the only explanation is that making an enemy is the point.

Unrelatedly, do we even have a way to track when Trump is talking with Putin at this point? He resisted having third parties present during the first term, but we still had notice of the conversations. The yes-men and lawlessness already means we probably will never know if and when they're talking.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Trudeau already did what he asked and spent another 1.3b on border control last week. This actually has nothing to do with drugs and immigration at all

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Fwiw mentioning, the level of fentanyl crossings is not even high, and is simply an enlarged wedge issue for the Trump administration to stave off dissuaders and forcibly push their way pass Congress to do whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

It was always an excuse, not a reason.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A lot of us think it's to prepare for an invasion judging by how much 51st state bullshit he and his followers are spewing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's to distract from all their treasonous crimes! The fact they're illegally destroying countless government institutions, looting the public coffers, and giving Musk the keys to the kingdom. When the dust settles they'll have seized control of everything important.

They aren't gonna invade Canada or Greenland... At least, not for a few years; not until they've purged enough military leadership and replaced them with loyalists. I hope they are dumb enough to try in 2025 though. That might genuinely result in civil war. I can't see the US military going along with it.

[–] jubilationtcornpone 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This. Numerous actions taken by the administration so far have been blatantly illegal or unconstitutional. Gotta muddy the water so no one has time to focus on that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Tbh ‘invade a nato partner’ sounds stupid but not impossible these days

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Trump ordering an invasion of Canada would be a lawful order--dumb as shit, but lawful as Commander in Chief. Military leaders who defy it would have no legal leg to stand on. They'll grit their teeth and do it.

What he doesn't trust about the current military leadership is that they'll follow his unlawful orders. Like attacking civilians on American soil. An actual invasion of Canada would likely spurn widespread condemnation and protests, and Trump would like to shut that down using the military. Those are the orders that would be unlawful and should not be followed. He'll want to purge the current leadership before he takes that course of action.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

It's more likely to destabilize the American population so they cannot resist the fascist takeover.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s to throw confusion while musk takes control of the treasury! It’s a coup

[–] __nobodynowhere 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It benefits the US's enemies. That's it.