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We reached the point (some time ago) where the save icon being a floppy disk makes absolutely no sense to anyone born after a certain time. We could choose a more modern media format and use an icon of that instead, but we would run into the same problem once that media becomes obsolete.

What is a good icon for the function of saving something that can easily be understood by anyone regardless of language or the march of time?

Edit: I know it's not really an answerable question and is hard but the question is what would you come up with if tasks to design an icon. Given the constraints of the question, what are your best shots at coming up with something that fills the requirements and why do you thing it would work?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

"I have updated the save icon from a floppy disk to a CD-ROM."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How about something like that? Symbolises data to device.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe it's just me but this looks like we're putting it somewhere to forget. Like junk lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] neidu3 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GTA2 save point.

"Halleluja, another soul saved"!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Spot on 😁

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

This is how ancient Egyptians prepared their dead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Uplifting my mood

I'm pressing it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The cloud is someone else's brain?

[–] hornywarthogfart 2 points 1 day ago

Interesting concept, attempting to indicate something entering the brain/head/statefulness. I wonder if we could generalize it further so that race of underground mole-people would understand it as well (e.g. not a species-specific head).

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or just the hard drive by itself. Is a platter drive old fashioned these days?

Also a safe would be a decent choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

A safe would make more sense for an encrypted partition or directory

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're asking for an abstract indicator of a concept. You might as well be trying to draw 'dignity'.

Everything else will become obsolete with time, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. We have countless icons that have long since been separated from their original meanings. The need for it to be intuitive is when the concept is new, not as it changes.

[–] hornywarthogfart 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah you're right, but I think it will be interesting to hear what people come up with. It's similar to the nuclear waste warnings. Wikipedia Nuclear Waste Warnings

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Assuming that I can't rely on real life's ubiquitous floppy disk icon, I think something with a bookshelf is probably my best bet. An arrow pointing to the bookshelf for save, away for load. Bookshelves can be recognisable as pretty small icons and a physical book is extremely broadly understood. It may eventually fail if everyone moves to e-readers, but I think that's a long way off

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Anything designed to represent the save action will become obsolete eventually because the nature of saving data changes.

Originally you saved writing by inscribing it on a wax tablet, then paper, then removable disk, then hard disk, then solid state, now the cloud.

I would say the most times less will be pencil on paper as it's the most basic method of recording.

📝

But that's already considered to mean an edit action

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A pencil writing on paper.

Assuming we're talking about "anyone" including a post-collapse society or an alien race that never invented the floppy, and sufficiently advanced to competently use a computer. The most basic means of recording information is to use an implement to create marks on a surface. You can draw lines in the sand, or indentations on a clay tablet, or scratches on a lead sheet, or lines on a paper, the method usually involves a flat surface and a pointy object leaving visible lines. The symbolic representation of a pencil and paper is sufficiently generic that most people will associate it with committing information to a non-volatile medium.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Or “New”? Fuck

[–] hornywarthogfart 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I think something along those lines is probably what we'd end up with. We couldn't do something that is truly universally understood to mean save but I think we'd get a large percentage of users who would make the connection instinctively.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Almost none of our symbols make sense and are disconnected from their origin. That's a good thing. Without detachment of the signs from their reference we can't have abstract thought and language. The letter D comes from an icon for fish. But it went from indexical reference to icon, to symbol. And then we changed its shape over time to what it is today, and some people started using it for the alveolar plosive. The same has happened for every single symbol we recognize and use, alphabet or not. It's all arbitrary and it doesn't matter if we don't use actual floppy disks anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Down arrow pointing to a horizontal line.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe something like a document going into a safe? As things are increasingly digital, both of those technologies become somewhat less relevant. On the other hand, one could go with 保存 on a button. Chinese and Japanese speakers will instantly know what it does. Others could learn. At some point, kanji are just slightly more complex squiggles to represent an increasingly non-concrete thing.

[–] sbv 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The word "save" localized appropriately.

[–] hornywarthogfart 2 points 1 day ago

This would work as long as the device the user was using adopted localization properly and all applications supported all languages. Consider also there are people who can speak a language but aren't able to read it. Those are a small percentage but they exist.

The goal of this would be to come up with an icon that would be most recognizable as save to the most people and future people after languages have changed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two types:

  1. "Save state" like in video games or word processors
  • For saving state in current application
  • There is hard disc / cloud saving
  1. "Save file" like in web browsers
  • This is for creating a copy of a file you found and want to keep
  • There is hard disc / cloud saving

In both cases you will want to signify saving to disc (this could look like a thick round disc) versus saving to the cloud

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