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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I don't understand how bitcoin has value. I know the dollar has no intrinsic value either; we just all agree it does. But the difference between the dollar and bitcoin is that if you decide to stop trading using the dollar, you become a terrorist and get a free hellfire delivery. If you stop trading using the bitcoin, no one cares. How did this whole bitcoin to value begin? How does a brand new currency start without the backing of a state? Why does it keep having value? It's interesting af.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

I don’t understand how bitcoin has value

The first major use case were donations to wikileaks, because the existing financial system shut them out. Recently, the Americans shut Russia out of the financial system and stole their money. Escaping financial repression is valuable (even if you don't agree that people should be able to escape).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 55 minutes ago (2 children)

drugs. the answer is drugs.

[–] admin 2 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

That's Monero my sweet summer child.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

More specifically it's international crime organizations using it as an alternative to moving cash across borders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

ohhhHHHHhhhhh! The criminal organizations are the ones propping that up. Use bitcoin or get cartelled?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 35 minutes ago

It might have taken days to get 50 btc.... on a laptop back then.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I bought some mdma in 2016 with Bitcoin, if I'd kept it in a wallet it would have been worth 40k today.

[–] admin 3 points 46 minutes ago

I bought some $300 DC Shoes and T shirts but I was like 15 years old lmao. It'd be like 20k last time I did the math.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

We may or may not have used bitcoin to buy substances and weed on silk road and... I think it was dream market, not sure, back in the day. 1 bitcoin was ~350€ at that time. I watched bitcoin become more and more valuable and less and less usable over the years, which at first I thought was very odd, until I realized that everything that roughly resembles a stock market is more or less mostly used by gamblers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Bitcoin is now literally digital gold, it has absolutely no value other than scarcity and you betting on people thinking it will be more valuable in the future, it's a money store, where you hopefully don't lose money, or don't accidentally click on a link that loses you all of your money, but most of bitcoin was bought ip by wallstreet and they built etfs around it, so it's not as much of a risk as it used to be, I still wouldn't touch it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

My employer and I set aside a little money into my 401 account. Sometimes, it gains, and sometimes, it loses. Giving your money away to a third party and saying, "Use this to make more money, then bring me back more than I gave you," always involves the chance they'll come back with nothing.

So yeah, any investment is always a gamble. The safest worthwhile investment is a house (savings accounts and CDs usually do not beat inflation). It's how the middle class builds generational wealth. But in the last few years, it's really been flipped on its head.

I'm not sure how COVID-era monetary policy will play out in 20 years, but what I do know is a lot of people bought houses when interest rates were basically free money and now have no reason to sell. My little brother pays less for his bigger house on more land than me. Why would he sell? Any house he can buy next will be a guaranteed downgrade and lost equity. He's borrowing at 2¼. I'm borrowing at 5⅝. Anyone buying today is probably looking down the barrel of 7%.

And this doesn't even touch on speculators and corporate slum lords.

But in this capitalist economic system that assigns a value to literally everything, everything is a gamble.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

A buddy of mine offered to sell me his 3 Bitcoin for a pack of cigarettes back in the day. I bought him the pack and told him to keep the coins, I wouldn't know wtf to do with them

In fairness, neither of us are rich now. I'm a broke mfer, and he lost the thumb drive his shit was on

[–] stevedice 83 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Remember the kind of people who got really into NFTs and lost everything? That's exactly the kind of people who got really into bitcoin 15 years ago, they just happened to get extremely lucky this one time. There's a reason why most bitcoin millionaires are such incompetent douchebags.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

The cope. Nobody could have predicted this! Except all the people who predicted it. But that was just luck!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was around /g/ during all of this and i thought about mining, did the math and decided not to. I was pretty broke at the time tbf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago

Ya, I saw an article when Bitcoin was very new, like 10 cents each, and it said Bitcoin was stupid as a currency because there is a limited number of it and it will only increase in value which will cause people to horde it making it not valuable as a currency. They were kinda right tbf, it's not a good currency.

I decided not to mine it because it would have cost as much in electricity as it was worth and the only thing I could buy were drugs which I don't use.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

My friend tried to convince me to get into bitcoin early and I didn't bother, I thought it was just a fad, like my mom "investing" in Beanie Babies.

He spent all his on drugs before the price took off though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Saledovil 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The problem with statements like "If you invested in Bitcoin back in 2009 you'd be rich now" is that you'd have to be clairvoyant to actually know that back then. And if you're clairvoyant, the lottery offers a better return on investment than bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 26 minutes ago

You could understand the potential without psychic skills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 minutes ago

Hm wat? It's obvious that something useful and scarce will always go up against money a central bank can create out of thin air.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

In fact saying stuff like this is literally like seeing the winning lottery numbers on the telly and thinking, if only I played those numbers two days ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm not sure which meaning of "drug" makes it worse

[–] [email protected] 54 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

be me

mining with CPU

sell coins to pay rent

mfw if I just lived on the street for a few years I could buy a private island

still paying rent

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

But if you lived on the street, would you be able to mine?

[–] napkin2020 46 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

be me, 13yo

mining with my shit GPU(can't recall) in 2013

dad smirks and says wouldn't that just cost me more in electricity

me agrees, quits

nice job, dad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

your electricity, my bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 13 hours ago

220 coins is about 22m usd today. the guys with 'vintage' btc and held, are smart. they won't be posting about their gains online.

[–] Gullible 14 points 13 hours ago

Still no clue why it’s so popular while my beanie babies languish. Can’t you use beanie babies to buy drugs? Please?

[–] jballs 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I had a cowoker who used to mine bitcoins back then. He said that it was a fun hobby but when he was moving to California he didn't think he would be able to make enough money to justify the higher electrical bill.

He was making about $60 a month farming Bitcoin, when it was $0.30 a piece. Had he kept just a month's worth of that, it would be worth $20.5 million dollars.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I used to mine them with cpu / GPU.

I bought a bottle of Jim beam for 25 BTC lol.

[–] jballs 2 points 1 hour ago

Just did the math. That's $2.5 million today. Oooof