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Musk makes Holocaust jokes after Netanyahu defends him as ‘great friend of Israel’
(www.jewishnews.co.uk)
Why are we letting these kinds of people rule us?
this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
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They manufacture consent, couple that with the extreme oppression and destruction of the middle class since the nixon administration and neo liberal right wing policies that doubled down on these awful ideas while actively working to subvert and undermine any movement left on meaningful social issues. We didn't let this happen so much as we were conditioned to allow it and be too exhausted just barely surviving that we would not have any energy to actively fight and thwart a blatant class war waged against the working class and poor right in front of our eyes,
What are we supposed to do? Vote? Protest? I think you’ve seen how effective those are.
So do you have any proposals? What exactly are we supposed to do?
Well, I was thinking of growing a group that focuses on helping each other reach self-sustainability, which would make controlling them extremely difficult, and would erode the ability of TPTB to exploit them. But my cognitive abilities declined very suddenly, and I struggle to keep a clean stack of clothes
I know this isn't the point, but they're not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they're just bad puns that aren't very funny or creative.
Agree, but the point of these "jokes" isn't to be funny. The first objective is to offend and cause harm. The second is to phrase the offense in such a way that the offender has the option to say, "it was just a joke" when confronted by the offended. The guy has far more interest in causing harm to people than making them laugh.
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Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.
Don’t forget there’s also the ADL, who want to equate those opposed to genocide as “anti-Semitic” and defend Musk who has been openly fascist and platforming Nazis for ages.
Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he's being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.
Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon... And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.
You’re not wrong, but this article is more about Netanyahu’s flexibility around ‘antisemitism.’
You know, how it’s now considered antisemitic to criticize Israel’s war crimes, but it’s totally not antisemitic to do a Nazi salute and joke about the holocaust as long as you support Israel’s war crimes?
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It's extremely disheartening that people such as this are even given the time of day in the first place. It's even more disheartening when people are getting fired for pointing out the obvious. I couldn't be more glad to have deleted my Twitter.
He's pretty clearly intentionally taunting everyone who opposes him, just demonstrating what he can get away with. That's what all of this has been about. He might not be anti-Semitic (please don't at me -- he likely is -- I said might) and rather is just a pure troll dickhead.
Just like with some of the 4chan idiots though, there is little functional difference between being a true believer nazi and merely pretending to be one.
Exactly.
“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” - Jason Garrett-Glaser
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Tbh, he's a massive douchebag on a power trip. It wouldn't shock me at all if he wasn't anti-Semitic and is just trying to push people's buttons. At the same time, if this is true, he's also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
That said, there's a good chance he's also just an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi piece of shit...and still doing the latter part of that.
Regardless, he's a fascist either way, so fuck him.
he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
This is the major fucking problem. The fat orange diaper sponge already fucked up the "what's acceptable in public" perception 8 years ago - and now we have the Apartheid-dipshit one-upping his rimjob buddy.
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“Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,” Musk posted Thursday, adding laughing-face emojis.
Being a dipshit Edge Lord all the time must be exhausting. Remember "Poochie" from "The Simpsons?" Yeah, that's Elon. To the X-treme.
I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.
The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from...
And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.
Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.
I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.
This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.
Keep ready.
wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol
He put his hands forward and said, "I don't particularly like Musk", but really, I see no difference between the two categories you described. The Israeli narrative of not allowing to "trivialize the Holocaust" when I have just been calling the guy a nazi because he speaks, acts and supports like one is exactly the kind of wildcard that a Musk/Trump sympathizer dreams of.
As long as you don't touch the Jews (or better israel and zionists), you are in the clear.
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These headlines are getting way out of hand.
If this goes on the ADL will be denying the holocaust be the end of the week.
"The real anti-semitism was when the allies attacked the camps on D-Day, the jews were just roasting s'mores we swear!" - The ADL
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The tweet for those curious
Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”
As usual, he's not even funny.
Dollars to donuts he generated that entire tweet with AI.
I feel like AI would make something more coherent than that.
AI would have used the correct german ö
Nazis siding with Israel against Jews is no great surprise at this point.
The KKK supported black separatists in the US in their goal of creating an independent state in Africa. It's almost like you can hate a group of people AND support their right to live on the other side of the world from you.
I think benji sees the utility there, and is also a fascist
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Being a great friend of netanyahu is yet more evidence that you are a fascist
He's literally bragging about how he will never be questioned
Translating a comment by a Norwegian author:
as someone who once put in a lot of effort to excuse the far right etc when they maybe cross the line a little bit but probably don't really mean it so let's all calm down a bit, I've learned one thing:
the only reward you get for doing this is that they the next day bombastically step over that same line to show that they don't feel bound by your wimpy sense of decency
because the fight is against what they perceive as a wimpy, castrated centrist decency is one of the central driving forces in such groups
More people who have tried to explain away the nazi salute could probably stand to learn the same lesson ASAP. The only thing they're really communicating is that the rich & powerful can do what they want and the excusers will stay their loyal lapdogs.
Basically Homelander-Syndrome?
This is in no way a defense of Elon. He is a horrible Nazi and he hates Jews and I'm a Jew.
That said, I'm not seeing where he brought up the Holocaust. He made a bunch of very offensive puns regarding Nazi leadership, but unless I missed it, nothing about the Holocaust. All the critical responses seem to mention it so maybe I'm missing it?
I guess I feel like "makes Holocaust jokes" is just unnecessary hyperbole when what he said was awful enough.
Himmler was a German Nazi leader and the chief architect of the Holocaust
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!
-- Elmu
I think it's probably fair to call punning on the name "Himmler" to be a "Holocaust joke", but I can also understand if someone doesn't think it is.
I guess. It feels like a bit of a stretch to me. If they said "Nazi Jokes" instead of "Holocaust Jokes," it's not like that's still not terrible.
You can't really separate the Holocaust from the Nazis.
And the stun lock continues. Kind of admirable
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