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In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.

Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.

Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden's strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

I'm kinda getting a "if you're getting raped just lay back and take it" vibe from this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Well yeah, and now he's taking this move from Putin's playbook for Greenland. He's at the "people in Greenland would rather be US citizens" stage. Putin did the same thing in the beginning when talking about the territories in Ukraine he wanted to take.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Yo. You know. Screw him. Slava Ukraini!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is chose to continue giving aide to Ukraine. This is just bullshit so he can appear to be trying to lower taxes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

I wouldn't be so confident about that, considering that Trump is known to spew so much bullshit that the truth is hard to parse from it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago

Of course he did. Trump would never stand up to a bully, he would never defend the weak against the nasty. That would take courage, but Trump has only cowardice and sycophacny for bullies.

Trump is a person who sucks up to bullies, and punches down on the bullied, through and through.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is a little bitch. Doesn't know what being a man is, because if he did, he'd do the opposite of this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's worse. I doubt he knows what being a human is...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“They’re saying ‘the war is tomorrow’ – this causes panic on the market and elsewhere," Zelensky, Jan 2022 in response to US warnings of imminent Russian invasion.

Zelensky didn't "choose to fight" because Russia insisted there would be no fight right up until it crossed the border. It would've been considered a sneak attack but for the US telling everyone Russia was invading for a full month in advance. There was no choice offered to Zelensky and never has been since, unless you count Russia's current stance of basically "give us all your weapons and maybe then we'll negotiate"/

[–] [email protected] 206 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rapist claims victims shouldn't fight back. More at 11pm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Oh. Wow. You win.

If that rooftop guy could hit the mark like this comment did, we wouldn't be having to listen to his chaotic-evil nonsense right now.

[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Ukraine HAD a deal with Russia ensuring its peace and its borders. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Russia was the one violating the deal Russia had agreed to.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he's finally figured out that he can't, in fact, just solve it?

Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.

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[–] [email protected] 216 points 2 days ago (14 children)

So Ukraine, hear me out... Eliminate Trump and Putin during the negotiations, blame it on someone else. Everyone will thank you, and we'll get over it.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I'm sure at this point if Zelenskyy pulled out a wellrod, popped both of them and said "Slava Ukraini" there would be a round of applause.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If he does this, I'm getting Heroiam Slava tattooed on my chest.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago

Convicted rapist says victims shouldnt fight back

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You might not believe me but anyone can just walk into maralargo. Trump won't have you trespassed, he will offer you a cash deal to leave. Trust me, it's true. Ez money.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

This is why he's having such a hard time getting Musk to leave. How do you make a problem go away when your only problem solving skill is bribery and your problem is a higher degree of wealth than your bribing power?

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“Just lay there and take it.” Is Trump’s motto

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Glad to see the ghost of Neville Chamberlain is still around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

C'mon, if we're doing WWII analogies he doesn't get to be an allied leader, even if Chamberlain was a really bad one.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Preparing the people of Greenland....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And Canada?

The 51st state

In his inaugeration trump literally mentioned he wants the US to grow in territory.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really? So, Mexico can take back what they lost and the USA will not resist.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If by that you mean Texas? Please take it back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if they take Florida also. Package deal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Actually, they can have all the Gulf states.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago

Fuck Trump you spineless corporate shill

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The annoying orange should not be discussing matters he knows shit about...

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So president of a nation that has the motto "give me liberty or give me death" is saying this.

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