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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So 99% of US people? What's different than before?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

It's to slowly prepare you for the oligarchy. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

New metadata tag added to each individual's archive. We already know thanks to Snowden that they've been collecting EVERYTHING and using it to effectively go back in time and retroactively monitor anyone they want.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I remember when this would just get you called a crazy conspiracy theorist. Then when it turned out to be true, nobody said anything.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I‘m guessing for now all this data is functionally useless since there is too much of it and you can‘t really differentiate between shit poster and actual threat.

What I wonder though, if eventually some AI could predict future behaviour, like say they fed it digital footprints of those that go ahead and do something, could it spot those similar?

Well, I hope I‘ll be dead by then cause I don‘t want to see the future police states at work, it‘s bad enough as it is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Oh no that information is readily available, indexed, ready to be brought up at a moments notice as soon as they have someone new on the radar. They can crunch through that data very quickly to generate a threat assessment on a new person. For the government, the difference between trolling and real threat don't matter, they treat them the same until you are about to do something. If you've ever made a joking threat about a politician on the internet, there's a file open on you, it just may not have your name on it yet.

It's not about predicting, it's meant to be retroactive once they have a person in mind. That's what makes the data collection technically legal according to the courts, since no specific individual is being targeted by the mass data collection, no warrant is necessary. They can gobble it all up now, and sift through it later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for the rec, sounds interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's a great read, but just be aware: it may question everything you thought you knew about data privacy.

[–] Shiggles 44 points 1 month ago

I would be extremely concerned about anybody with positive views of health insurance, only slightly less so if they were directly enriching themselves off of it.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

They were tracking everybody before too right? Because terrorism or something? Fuck off feds.

[–] SreudianFlip 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Snowdon was right, they're watching every single hominid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

*Snowdonald

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Oh, I know I am firmly on that list. Brian Thompson got what he deserved. It’s a shame it hasn’t happened to more of them.

[–] WoodScientist 22 points 1 month ago

Saint Luigi of Baltimore, forgive us our debts. Deliver us from the greed of the Wicked. Protect us in sickness and in health. Lead us from the labyrinth of insurance denials. Bring Justice to the Merchants of Death.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Okay? Thats only what, most of the US population?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I referred to Luigi during a call with my SSDI attorney earlier today. I was shocked that she didn't immediately get the reference.

They turned down my application despite their own doctors saying I was disabled.

[–] WoodScientist 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you reach the end of your days, and you haven't ever been on at least one watch list...Can you really even say you have ever lived at all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I bet a bootlicker would take pride in such outcomes...

Daddy's lil bitch did nothing wrong and daddy obviously rewarded him for being a class traitor

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The document is one of a flurry threat reports quietly circulated to law enforcement across the country by a sprawling network of little-known intelligence organizations created in response to 9/11. Called fusion centers, groups like the New York State Intelligence Center were tasked with fighting terrorism, which alleged the killer Luigi Mangione was charged with. Today, there is at least one fusion center in all 50 states (even Wyoming, home to the Wyoming Information Analysis Team.)

Marked “LAW ENFORCEMENT USE ONLY,” the document quoted above is, like other intelligence reports, not usually available to the public. But this record was pried loose by the open records wizardry of the transparency nonprofit Property of the People. Without them, this report would join the countless others exempt from public scrutiny. That’s a real gift to the government agencies that produce these reports, which often serve little purpose beyond inflating supposed threats into zeppelin-like proportions.

Consider, for example, the report’s boldfaced title —“Executive ‘Hit Lists’” — evoking some kind of John Wick-style serial hitman. But the evidence for this amounts to “viral posts online” that “listed the names and salaries of several health insurance executives” and some “Wanted” signs posted in Manhattan.

The Man being The Man

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

feds just doing busy work, online shit posters ain't no Luigi.

And future Luigi is smart enough not to shot post about his or her sentiment on such issues.

This entire thing is a psyop to make normies to self censor. And it works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is this different than before? The NSA and every other three letter agency has been sweeping up domestic data and doing warrantless monitoring of U.S. citizens for as long as they've had the capability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, and it needs to be called out more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Monitor deez nuts, bitch. Fuck the rich and fuck you. Buck buck, motherfuckers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Okay, we already know the spooks are already monitoring everyone. We've known this for a long time. They don't have to come up with an excuse to try and tell us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

get me in the shot!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

HI FBI GUY! sorry for the weird ass porn you have to watch too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh, so this is the new scare! There's already been the Lavender Scare, the Red Scare, the Satanic Panic etc.

This scare will be called the Health Scare. Any other suggestions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It would seem they have a conflict of interest. Choosing life or death for someone where not providing care would be less costly. Morality = / = legality.

It would seem to make sense to allow the doctors to be advocates for their patients, but I get that oversight is needed too. It’s not an easy situation to solve. There are clearly glaring issues in the current system.

In case it’s unclear murder is wrong if done by 1 person or a collective entity through an indirect series of actions.

E: fixed formatting = / = Without spaces changes to equal and not ‘not equal’

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There are doctors and organizations who scam the insurance, and this is used for justifying these systems being in place; however in the for-profit world especially these are increasingly used as a tool for profit rather than loss protections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Agreed, and that’s the hard part. Finding and promoting good and right while removing greed. Oversight is needed, but doesn’t this feel a bit like the wolf watching the sheep?

The system isn’t completely broken, but it has glaring issues. Transparency and accountability is missing. Rules for thee and me need to match with equity.

“Good”, “right”, and “fair” seem to be dying in society.

We can only be our own little light in a sea of darkness…maybe with a little luck we can make the world a little brighter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

fun fact: insurance companies allow that to happen because its cheaper than preventing it and hilariously why there is less fraud via medicare/medicaid.

so next time you hear that non-sense for an excuse know that it is false and entirely of their own making.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

they would demand a public apology for hurting these poor companies' feelings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Is this supposed to scare a taxpaying citizen of allegedly free country?

I guess normies will larp but JFC

Luigi did nothing wrong and spooks trying to scare public won't change the opinion but they want to suppress the sentiment so their owners feel better.

It is disgusting that these Snow flakes need the government to make them feel at easy, the government that working pedon funds.