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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Because it's not an intellectual property problem, it's a behavioral economics problem. And also, it's not a problem. 🀷

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hot take: Even if China did "steal" technology from the US, who cares? Why are we defending US corporations all of a sudden? You don't think they haven't done their fair share of stealing? In fact, I don't care if US companies stole tech from China or any country stealing tech from any other country. All competition benefits us peasants in the end, and you, fellow nobody who's probably not a Fortune 500 CEO, are not the one being stolen from. China making something with alleged US technology will not deprive US citizens of said technology. And get this, if China "steals" your tech to build something better than you have now, you can then "steal" their improvements right back, because "stealing" or more formally, copying of technology is an ancient phenomenon that only started being vilified with the copyright and patent era. People have openly copied each other's innovations for the vast majority of human history, and the most important inventions of the human race have arisen from people copying other people's ideas and building on them. Imagine how ridiculous it would be if China was able to patent their invention of paper, or the compass, or gunpowder, and prevented Europe from "stealing" those technologies. Imagine if Ancient Greece patented bronze and successfully prevented the technology from proliferating into a brand new era of humanity. The second person to figure out fire probably watched the first person behind their back.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Indeed, the whole narrative of China stealing is rooted in a racist narrative that aims to dismiss the technological progress that China is making.

[–] doo 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We’re all sick of the dozens of apps on our phones

That day when I realised I'm not part of "we all".

Do I really need my calculator to have maps function?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, also, how does that make any sense? How is it better to have dozens of apps but inside a super app instead of directly in your app drawer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Because the owner of the overarching app will make more money and have more control. Don't you want that for them? /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's like app drawer inside an app drawer lol.

[–] lka1988 1 points 1 day ago

Do I really need my calculator to have maps function?

Might wanna check where you got that app, then

[–] pastermil 3 points 21 hours ago

The fact they even try is beyond me...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (85 children)

@yogthos "Super App" never made sense to me either. It's just an operating system and a dozen apps in a trenchcoat.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have been working in tech since 1995. The one constant in the industry is that everyone is stealing everything all the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Well, that's the magic of open source 🀷

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "struggle" is because Apple and Google refuse to do so as they built the platform to give themselves priority.

One can trivially do so on a Linux phone, e.g. PinePhone with PostMarketOS.

Source: I did it. Plenty of others do through the usual ways, e.g. pipe in the console but also with things like https://sxmo.org/docs/user/sxmo.7.html#HOOKS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my opinion the whole notion of coupling the UI to the API was a step in the wrong direction. It makes it effectively impossible to compose apps the way you can compose command line utils with piping. Apps should be designed as client/server by default, and then you could always leverage the service API for the app any way you want, slap a custom UI, use it in automation scripts, etc. It's just way more flexible that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some apps are still done this way, e.g. transmission the BitTorrent client, but also ALL self-hosted Web apps. Sure it might feel a bit much to install containers on your phone "just" for that, or having to go through REST API despite being on the same actual device, but still it provides a TON of app.

Anyway, yes I agree that it is often a better model. Still a lot of apps, e.g. Blender, Inkscape, etc do provide a CLI interface. So one can both use them with a GUI or without. It's not decoupled like transmission but arguably it covers most needs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

yeah there are a handful of apps that follow this model, it would be nice if it was the standard way to do things. In fact, this could even be handled by the GUI toolkit itself since native apps have to rely on it to build the user interface. The toolkit could just automatically generate a JSON API based on that for example.

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