Idiocracy was too optimistic. it supposes that when people are having problems they will realize, realize they can't fix it, and try to find someone who knows more than them to fix them
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Not just that but the story also suggests that the US can fail so terribly while still functioning to be able to still host monster truck rallies and have a working water system that can pump millions of gallons of mountain dew
Brawndo, its what plants crave
Your point, like many similar, misses the fact that idiocracy is MANY cycles in before they attempt to right the ship. There is an entire population of adults in there that seemed to have been born into the already broken world and developed wholly inside of it (and probably several generations). Not a lot of "Back in my day" in that world, because back in "that day" everyone was still a fucking moron in a broken world.
500 years covered in the link below alone. Settle in, we're just getting started. Unfortunately we'll never live to see the movie, "Ass" or to see it win those 8 Oscars.
The premise was that it was a gradual decline to that point though. There would have been millions of opportunities to right the ship up until that point. It's optimistic that at some point, at SOME point, people will decide to do what the smartest people think. But the movie is pretty pessimistic that there was entire generations that didn't ever do that even once.
It's also not how genetics works. Smart people don't only have smart children and dumb people don't only have dumb children.
The fact that nine people m people think that intelligence is actually a highly inheritable trait is worrying.
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I just finished rewatching this yesterday. It's on Prime by the way. And as the show continued I was like "Wait, am I siding with Liber8"? The terrorist group in the show. Seriously there are so many parallels to real life. This was made in 2012. A bit ahead of its time.
The people with the money making our laws. Our presidential cabinet is about to be made up of billions of dollars. Other corporations (Piron) buying the government so they can have political power. Lobbying.
The first episode when we saw the first grassroots support of Liber8 trying to take down a corporation using violence I thought of Luigi and his overwhelming support by the public. And the followers of Theseus that kept saying ideas are more powerful than violence.
The Theseus followers have a peaceful protest on a college campus, and they are arrested because their ideas align with Liber8 and therefore are "supporting terrorists". But really they are just supporting the cause, not the few violent people. Which is exactly like supporting the Palestinians. The police consider every Palestinian a terrorist even though it's only a few who did the atrocities.
In 2077 everyone is being tracked by their gadgets and your worth is dependent on your actual net worth. Everything is privatized. Firefighters actually chose to save a couple of board execs in a building over two kids because they "contribute more". History is banned. Anything that reports on history like VHS, DVD, books is considered contraband. We already are trying to censor slavery in Florida schools. Misinformation runs wild and the public just believe what the corporations tell them. Anyone against them is evil or a terrorist. See: FOX news today.
The time travel gets a little wonky at times but damn was it a fascinating show of the gray area. I kept flipping back and forth on who was right. And shit, the twist in season 3 I didn't see coming and basically upended the entire series. The future cop having her tech gadgets in 2012 working with the very same person who caused the future as an 18 year old kid is a fun concept. Making him an enemy of his future self. Definitely worth a quick watch. 4 short seasons.
Seriously there are so many parallels to real life. This was made in 2012. A bit ahead of its time.
Like with most movies and books that seem ahead of their time because they 'predict the future', the show was based on an existing trend that was happening and they accurately predicted the obvious outcome. That isn't a criticism of their artistic ability, just pointing out that we were well on this path back in 2012 and the show happened to highlight that trend.
It was a pretty good show that sadly got forgotten. But yes, on my second rewatch recently (In Canada at least it's also on Tubi for free...) I was immediately with Liber8. They are the protagonists. And I think that was kind of the point of the show by the end.
By episode 6 I was on their side lol. When they steered away from violence and won over the public I was like ok I can get on board with this.
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The scariest part about this comment that it barely sounds like fiction.
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+1 for referencing Continuum. "Canadian Sci-Fi starring Roger Cross" is probably one of my favorite sub-genres of it, and Continuum is at the top of that list (Dark Matter is a close second).
Canadian Sci-Fi starring Roger Cross
That made me laugh out loud because it's so damn true.
Ooh the guy from Dark Matter is in this? I'll have to watch it now.
Yeah, but he's mean in Continuum lol. In Dark Matter he was probably the nicest of the 6 main characters.
It might be worth pointing out there are two sci-fi shows called "Dark Matter".
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4159076/ <-- This is the crazy fun space sci-fi show from 2015 that ended abruptly. This is the one I think you referenced.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492/ <-- This is the more somber sci-fi show from 2024 with the focus on dimensional travel. It is good, but I prefer the other.
I still think it's on track for Idiocracy.
Tbh it’s starting to look more like Altered Carbon, except the core tech is complete vaporware because eel-on-musk made it.
That, or CP2077.
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I still think Infinite Jest is in pole position:
- unqualified populist US president
- canada (and mexico?) subjugated to the US
- subsidised time (selling everything including the calendar to the highest bidder)
- catapulting garbage into giant superfund sites
edit: also I think we can be on track for both Infinite Jest and Idiocracy
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Honestly the world is much better than it was.
For instance, around 140 million people were killed in WWI and WWII.
That's correct. It IS better than it was. And it's important to KEEP it that way. But in case you haven't noticed, world history is following pretty much the exact same path beat-for-beat that it did in the lead up to that war that cost 140 million lives.
It's not whether we are better off than we were in the past. It's a question of whether or not we're going to stay that way. Because the next world war might claim a billion or more. (exaggerating for effect of course)
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OMG yes! I’ve had moments in the last few months where I can see a portion of the show play out in something benign in the news. Though most dystopian stories seem to have something in common with what is transpiring right now in the real world just enough to think there are commonalities. Good call out!
Sounds like the plot of In Time.
The forerunners to these trends were observable even back then, and also, history repeats itself. Check out HG Wells Time Machine from 1895 (not 1985, actually 1895), and Animal Farm by George Orwell in 1945, or even Plato's Allegory of the Cave, written around 380 BCE.
The closer we get to the future, the higher the resolution of the prediction - using our exact words & phrases like "social media" - but it is eerie how accurate those hundreds to thousands of years old works are as well.
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