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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Yeah, anything but foss apparently.

Sorry for off topic.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the US government wanted to actually take the high road on this instead of hoping to be able to keep public discourse under the thumb of their own oligarchs, they would push in this direction instead imo

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Yes.

Any government actually.
By funding foss projects and living the example.

It's not like it's not happening, but it's alloys at such a smol scale.
And not really on social media part (a few govs use Mastodon iirc, but that is about it that I can think of).

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

2026: the year of the foss social media platforms

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (3 children)

shoots self in foot, again

That'll show em!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Which one is doing the shooting?

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honestly, The government isn't protecting our data anyways so it really doesn't matter. Amazon has had yet another massive breach but no worries the government is sitting idly by. Not a single action will be taken even though this happens all the time. No penalty means no reason to change.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Yeah, if the government really cared, they would be pushing privacy laws instead of trying to ban a platform.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Yeah...but it's much easier to get elected with "ChInA bAd!”

Then "We need a nuanced approach to privacy and social media."

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Is this the Amazon breach you're talking about?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larsdaniel/2024/11/11/amazon-confirms-data-breach-exposed-2800000-lines-of-employee-data/

I hadn't heard of it, and I usually follow this stuff pretty closely. FWIW, in this case, it appears that the data was employee data from a third party vendor's systems:

The exposed Amazon dataset includes employee work contact information, email addresses, desk phone numbers, and building locations. While Amazon spokesperson Adam Montgomery confirmed the breach, he emphasized in a statement to TechCrunch that core Amazon and Amazon Web Services, or AWS, systems remained secure.

People misconfigure AWS resources all the time, so it is definitely true that data stored by Amazon leaks out from time to time, although they don't have much culpability in these cases.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (22 children)

American gov worried about Americans going to Chinese social media to share even more personal information

Chinese gov worried about the influx of Americans inside their Great Firewall

What a clusterfuck. I love it.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (102 children)

Just like the "men would do anything but go to therapy" meme, Americans would rather install malware on their phones than get out to vote.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Except this was never about "malware" or anything else.

Republicans first wanted to ban it because younger people were getting politically organized on it, and they weren't voting republican.

Then it was the main platform where news of Gaza was getting out, because American owned media, social media included, have always towed the line with Israel and anything that shows them in a negative light is just automatically considered "antisemitic".

Because of Gaza, Democrats jumped on trying to ban it with Republicans because neither side liked that information was being spread and they had no power to suppress.

If they actually cared about security or the privacy of citizens they would make regulation that applied to all social media, US included. There is nothing Ticktok does that Facebook, Twitter, and all the rest don't have a long history of doing. And there was the whole Cambridge Analytica thing where it was found Facebook sold user data and gave access to a foreign group that actively was using Facebook to influence the 2016 election. If China wanted data on US citizens there is nothing stopping them from just buying it from American companies like they already do.

Also, Twitter was specifically doing things to help prop up Trump this last time at the behest of Musk who was not born in the US and pretty much fits the bill of "foreign agent trying to undermine American values", except that he's trying to undermine the people and the push for equality and human rights, which most politicians don't care about.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A Dennis rage tantrum really sums up their user reaction perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And it's understandable. 170 million US citizens are on TikTok. More than 1% has a significant business enterprise that has flourished in that app (not so on the other apps).

The US government, beyond just violating* the free speech of half the population, would be shooting itself in the face by banning the app, considering how much lost tax revenue is likely to occur.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

They don't care about that. Controlling the narrative > tax revenue to them by far.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

"Why are all these women so angry about not being able to vote?"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think a handful of influencers found it and just started promoting it. It's a bandwagon thing, I'm not expecting 95% of the TikTok base to be going to another Chinese app just to stick it to the man. They are going their because the people they follow are going there.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (11 children)

And no doubt they were bribed like motherfuckers to promote it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A few days ago, this app had a few dedicated shitposters who really felt like they had a community, then a tidalfuck of Americans came and ruined everything.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm not convinced people are actually moving to Red Note. I think this is another Threads situation.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My gf is Chinese and her feed is littered with Americans trying to look cool, and speaking zero Mandarin. The other one constantly occurring are Americans saying "so what Chinese are getting my data? You know what's called sharing? It's called Kindness❤️🙏" i almost spit my coffee, but I was in bed and I had dry mouth

It's so wierd to see those people to go out of their way, to another soulless corporation, for no benefit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The government says it’s for our own good and we should trust them.

Except we don’t trust them and don’t care about our own good.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair they also don't are about our own good, they just want us to install some good ol home grown American spyware.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wasn't going to before, but now that you've told me not to I'm definitely going to do a bunch of opiates.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

You can't stop teens, they determine what is cool and will try everything to be cool. Ask the Soviet Union how trying to keep teens from buying Levi's Jeans worked out for them.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

This rivalry with China is so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm too old to be up to date with American internet culture. What app are the cool kids using now?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A bunch of people moved over to 小红书 (xiaohongshu) lit. "little red book" aka RedNote. It's basically chinese instagram.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What’s the obsession with Chinese social media anyway

[–] Awesomo85 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You see, as long as it's China radicalizing people through social media delivered propaganda, it's totally cool and edgy.

Plus, many people have let themselves become so addicted to short form content that they are willing to slob-gobble down all of that propaganda and ~~sell~~ beg these companies to take their information without question as long as they get their Mr. Beast fix.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Maybe it'll circle back around again like fashion, irc, phpbb, and xmpp messengers becoming the new hip retro protocols.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (14 children)

The question might as well be "Why did you vote republican?" and nothing else would change. Not even the people responding.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They really have cut off their nose to spite their face imo. Only way this makes sense to me is that the users want a noble justification for their ignoble habit.

“The data would’ve ended up in China anyway since American apps would’ve sold it.” -Rationalizations of a feed addict fiending

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (58 children)

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don't use vague threats, use evidence based examples. I'll wait.

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