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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don't use vague threats, use evidence based examples. I'll wait.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you ever been on tiktok? You will lose braincells quicker than drinking gasoline.

It should genuinely be considered self harm to have a tiktok account.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't disagree, but I also feel the same about X and Facebook and neither of them have copped a ban.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree with you, but that's a Meta scandal. If anything it proves that the right move would be to regulate the platforms. Not just ban foreign ones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yes, I agree! I provided an example of a TikTok campaign in a later comment. It's not the source that's the problem, it's that everyone is trying to manipulate (but the ones controlling the platform have way more feedback and control, of course).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You've gotta be more specific than chucking a wiki link to a UK data company, champ.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you provide any evidence that china is influencing political opinions in a way which would be unique to using a Chinese app? Or are you just fear mongering and talking out your ass?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what? You're right. I doubt that a control freak government would try to control anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this your way of conceding that you in fact have no evidence and you're talking out your ass? Because if so, show some grace and humility and just say it, instead of acting like a teenager.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you have to be so angry and offended and why do you have to pretend you were given no evidence when i provided two examples? I didn't say your mom was a nosy manipulative control freak, I said the Chinese government was!

Oh,... wait...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I asked for specific examples of how a Chinese app would impact Americans and you linked two pieces of vague bullshit not directly related in any way to China.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“Chinese app”? I’m sensing some defensiveness here.

Using any for profit data harvesting app has great financial incentive to negatively impact anyone, evidence based government back-doors or not.

I’m sure there’s some lovely Chinese-made fediverse wrappers or locally hosted communities with good moderation. Idk, I don’t speak Chinese.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're sensing frustration at America's consistent sinophobia.

Using any for profit data harvesting app has great financial incentive to negatively impact anyone

Pretty sure I said:

Explain exactly how using a Chinese app will negatively impact the average American. Don’t use vague threats, use evidence based examples.

So far I've responded to about 6 people and no one's been able to articulate any sort of tangible negative impacts, just vague threats and handwringing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dang, nobody spent 20 minutes of their life citing sources about a tangentially related topic you randomly sprung on them in a Lemmy comments section? Instead they had negative reactions? They must be sinophobic - stay strong brother your next comment will surely win the lurkers over ✊

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So why bother replying to my very specific question if you don't have anything to contribute? Oh yeah, because your mum brought you up to think that your opinions are special and everyone should hear them. Way to go, champ.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I’m just very charmed by your CharmOffesive comrade! I cannot help myself - I’m compelled to reply~😍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It allows any pos to spread their garbage misinformed opinions as facts. its full of adult weirdos making softcore porn knowing the platform is full of minors and many intentionally targeting their content towards them. Its full of grifters peddling pseudoscientific supplements, cosmetics, medical advice etc. Its full of rwnj and pseudo progressives from all over the world spreading populist propaganda. It also makes it easy for any anti social pos to get famous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

which is banned where i live

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, are you describing X or Facebook with your comment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China controlling the narrative might be a bit worrying. Not sure how much that reflects in the daily life of a single person but for societies it does have some implications.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's no more worrying than the misinformation being spread on Facebook and X, in large part by Russian troll farms or Murdoch's media empire, but somehow it's China that's the real problem. I see no reason why anyone should be fear mongering about the dangers of using a Chinese app any more than using X.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean imo all sort narrative building and interference is worrying and from a government perspective of course foreign actions and platforms are more worrying. China and Russia being very clearly rivals if not outright enemies of the US, it is more worrying because of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And yet this ban does nothing to stop Chinese or Russian troll farms from spreading misinformation and using the outrage algorithm to further fracture the American public on American platforms.

This legislation is not about stopping bad foreign actors, this is purely a way to protect the business interest of American social media companies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it's much easier for the US government to control stuff, if it wants to, when it comes to American companies. That probably plays a role.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (19 children)

What makes you think that? They haven't so far, despite proven Russian troll farms operating on American platorms. I think you've inadvertently reversed the order of master and servant there.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Any enemy of the US is a friend of mine

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