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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

they know this isn't true but they also know it works to say it

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago

"I am so far right that compared to me Hitler was a communist" FTFY Elon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Not like it really matters. A lot of self proclaimed communists on the fediverse actively supported Trump, such as ML and Hexbear.

If nobody agrees what or who communism is then it gets used to describe anything and everything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I love it when folks are so stupid that they're ignorant of how stupid they are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Some guy saying that in a pub is ignorant. The leader of a Nazi political party knows exactly what they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

He may be as dumb as one, but he's more of an oligarch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

They are not ignorant. They know exactly what they’re doing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Americans: "Hitler was a communist."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago

They can agree as much as they want. They can agree to suck each other's cocks too.That doesn't change the facts. Stupid people remain stupid people.Populism remains populism Stop listening to them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Yes because that's thing thing we care about, not that he was also a mass murdering fuckhead.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If Hitler is communist then the Nazi party is communist.

If the nazi party is communist then nazis and supporter of the nazi ideology are communists.

The far right is comprised majorly of nazis and supporters of nazi ideology, then the far right is communist.

The far right has Trump as a leader and have an ideology similar to their supporters, then… Trump is communist.

America, you know what to do with those commies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Red scare, don't let me down now!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Just wait till you find out what color MAGA hats are!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 18 hours ago

Funniest are people quoting Goebbels who said something like that...

Like... Bruh.... You are falling for the tricks of the minister of propaganda of the Deutsches Reich of 1940 in 2025...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking: self proclaimed genius is, in fact, an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't his own dad say he was... the R word?

[–] skulblaka 9 points 17 hours ago

To be fair his dad's opinion isn't one that I respect.

But yes. The man has more money than God and basically his entire family has completely disowned him, with the exception of the baby he carries around as body armor because he isn't old enough to know what that is yet.

For anyone else in the world I would hope that would be something of a wake up call.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

North Korea is a thriving democracy; it’s right in the name!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

So Venezuela is in fact, Bolivia?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

and Baathist Syria was totally a democratic republic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't believe Syria ever styled itself "Democratic". But the Syrian Republic was certainly a republic.

For that matter, so was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

A republic is simply a nation with no monarch. If you don't believe me ask any Canadian, as they are constantly debating whether to officially leave the British crown and become a republic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Not as a title, but if i recall correctly, the first first article of the old constitution states that the Syrian Arab Republic is a Democracy. Also for what it's worth, the Baath party was also officially "socialist".

The lack of a monarchy isn't enough to qualify as a republic, the people need to also hold some sort of power.

[–] Danquebec 3 points 8 hours ago

Yea, the name is originally in latin res publica, meaning "public matter". In opposition to a kingdom that is the private domain of a single person.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board.

Sort of. Hitler didn't found the party, he joined it as a mole in order to spy on it for the military. He ended up doing a lot more than most moles, eventually taking it over and expelling the more socialist (though still racist) founders.

Hitler hated socialists and tried to change the name as soon as he took over, but was convinced to keep the name because it had become a popular brand.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago

Consider the martyr Luigi in these troubled times.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The Axis alliance between Italy Germany and Japan was literally formed as an anti-communist alliance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Dear Leader says Hitler was a communist so he was, all of you are wrong!

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Communists were literally one of the first groups targeted for arrest when Hitler came to power in 1933. Like 10 seconds on google.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, so now Stalin is a communist?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it's very possible that he doesn't actually believe this, but instead wishes that his fans, who are always so eager to kiss his ass do, since in the eyes of most people, Hitler was the most horrible person to ever exist, and if Hitler was a communist that'd mean that communists are horrible people.

On the other hand, Muskrat is so stupid that him honestly believing this isn't impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

To quote wikipedia : The first [concentration] camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school. The number of prisoners in 1933–1934 is difficult to determine; historian Jane Caplan estimated it at 50,000, with arrests perhaps exceeding 100,000. Eighty per cent of prisoners were members of the Communist Party of Germany and ten per cent members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany.

This obviousy proves Hitler had tens of thousands of communists imprisonned in concentration camps to hide the fact that he secretly was a communist/socialist ! /s

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Breaking: Fascists are fucking stupid, more news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Corrected Title: Two fascists agree Hitler was a communist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I gotta think of the ridiculous Simpsons clip with McBain where he said: “COMMI NAZIS” And it was funny because of how ridiculous it is to have a communist Nazi

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.

In this case, the phrase works on two levels.

Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.

For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.

The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

You Americans really need to do something about this clown coughluigicough

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

McBain to base. Under attack by Commie-Nazis.

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[–] drascus 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ahh so elon is now publicly declaring he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

That's what he always does right?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh yes. In the early 1900s Nazis waged openly violent political gang war against the communists out of love and similar views.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

So she admits that her AfD supporters also support a communist.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fucking idiots. Does it mean that Trump is a communist?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So ... then they're both communists too?

[–] andrew_bidlaw 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

It's like defining masculinity by looking at Musk.

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