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Not for gaming, for running AI open source models and other AI shenanigans. My 4080 Super has been filling my gaming needs and will for years to come, but it's not enough for my AI interests lol

The most I can get out of this 4080 is running a ~7B param model, but I want to run cooler shit like that new open source DeepSeek v3 that dropped the other day.

I agree, history always repeats itself. But perhaps the timing is different, it could be 20 years, 10 years, or 50 years who knows

Some current directions in AI, such as LLMs, seem to be dead-ends in the sense that those approaches cannot be incrementally improved much further to, for example, eliminate hallucinations or simply be capable of using logic along with those probability engines in such a way as to, at minimum, exclude the logically impossible from the results.

The dot-com stuff on the other hand was the very first bubble from the very first wave into a whole new technological direction that had just been unlocked and gave access to an entire technological branch of new ways of doing things - it the result of the very first wave of investment around the technology domain of worldwide digital communications and all the other tech branches that became possible due to it.

Basically the Internet was like openning a door to a various new areas of Tech (curiously that wasn't even all that amazingly complex as Tech goes, kinda like a basic wheel isn't exactly complicated but look at all that became possible with its invention), whilst the current AI wave (which is mainly the latest wave of work in the branch of Neural Networks, which is over 3 decades old) is more like a handful of massivelly complicated solutions which are the product of decades of work in a specific direction, some of which work in such a way that they can't be significantly further improved and hence can't be made to get past certain problems it has (the most obvious example being LLM hallucinations).

So whilst I do think that in 20 years there will be some prevalence of AI tech companies in some domains were the AI solutions of this wave of development on it do work well enough (say, entity detection on images), I don't think that will be anywhere comparable to what happened in the 20 years following the start of a new Tech Age which triggered by the Internet.

Mind you, 2 decades is a lot of time in Tech terms, so maybe somebody will come up with a whole different approach to AI in the meanwhile that breaks through the inherent limitations of the current one, just don't count on it.

Edit: just wanted to add that I was there when Darpanet morphed into the Internet and the dot-net bubble that came out of it. At the time everybody and their dog was playing around with making a websites, people were trying new stuff on top of those websites, inventing new comms protocols, wiriting programs that talked to other programs over the network, creating entirely new business models anchored on making a website a storefront - the Internet was Freedom. This AI wave doesn't feel at all like that - sure plenty of people are deploying models created by others and trying them out, but very few are creating new models and a lot of that Tech comes pre-monetised and locked down by large companies who are trying to get money out of anything people do with it - the whole things is not at all like the "we've open this whole new domain, you guys figure out what to do with it" that was the birth of the Internet.

Multiple outlets including LTT and Gamers Nexus have debunked this.

The only thing you may have to do if you notice unusual performance is reapply thermal paste to the GPU, and that’s only because most thermal paste will dry out after years of sitting around or being used

The price of gpus would go down as there would be less demand.

That's what I'm saying since 2020, people don't have patience any more.

Just deserts.

We aint found shit

Silverlight, what are you doing here? Go on, get outta here!

I want the hype bubble to burst because I want them to go back to making AI for useful stuff like cancer screening and stop trying to cram it into my fridge or figure out how to avoid paying their workers, and the hate bubble isn't going to stop until that does.

Those in charge brought it on themselves. They can’t see through their own hype and lies and cult-like worship. It’s the rest of us that will hurt the most though.

As little downtime as possible is actually better than having more downtime, as the major problems come from heating/cooling cycles

Gaming aside, powerful GPUs are useful for a lot of work like 3D graphics, video editing, neural networks, and a lot of stuff i don't know about

Some things like vr also just barely work without a powerful GPU

I have a 3060 but with the sheer number of pixels that my reverb g2 has its really not enough